Trump Gets Triggered By Looming Criminal Charges & Melts Down

It's a given that the first thing that Trump and his legal team is going to do is attempt to move the Georgia case to federal court.

Trump’s Allies Scramble for Ways to Shut Down Georgia Probe​

It's a sign of MAGAworld's growing angst over the former president's legal woes
ADAM RAWNSLEY, ASAWIN SUEBSAENG, PATRICK REIS

DONALD TRUMP’S ALLIES are searching frantically for legal methods to shut down the investigation in Georgia, another sign of MAGAworld’s growing angst over Trump’s mounting legal troubles — especially in Fulton County.

Last year, the former president told members of his inner circle that, by retaking the White House, he could close federal investigations into his alleged criminal past — and legal experts generally agree that as president he’d have the authority to do so.

But after Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis charged Trump on Monday with leading an ongoing “criminal enterprise,” the former president is now facing two local indictments. And that has left his broad network of MAGAfied lawyers, political allies, and longtime conservative activists searching for legal theories that Trump could wield to either shut down these investigations or nullify potential convictions, three people familiar with the matter tell Rolling Stone.

Trump’s team has mulled asking the U.S. Supreme Court to intervene to throw out the Georgia case, arguing Willis lacks the authority to charge the former president. Only Congress can prosecute a president for actions taken while in office, so the logic goes (even though Willis’ indictment includes actions Trump took after he stepped down). They’ve considered a similar appeal to the state’s Supreme Court.

Legal experts say the argument is bunk. “This is something I have to say all the time: ‘Your feelings and the law are two different things,’ ” says Ken White, a former federal prosecutor. “The way that they think this law should be — or the way they feel that it is in a wishcasting way — has nothing to do with what the law is.”

But the wishcasting is nonetheless in full effect. Some of these legal strategies were privately ...

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Trump's Allies Scramble for Ways to Shut Down Georgia Probe

It's a sign of MAGAworld's growing angst over the former president's legal woes
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At the federal level the lines between Trump the man, Trump the candidate, and Trump the President are blurry
 
This should be on pay-per-view.

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Shiftless2 said:
"He incited this. He needs to have his bail revoked and his ability to intimidate witnesses and potential jurors stopped immediately. And these threats need to be investigated and the terrorists rounded up." S2 #185
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And therefore is government's refusal to fulfill its charter here merely dereliction? Or is it actual collusion?
 
To repeat Trump appears to be beyond effed this time around ....

“Just Say That the Election Was Corrupt, and Leave the Rest to Me”: In Georgia, Donald Trump Appears Beyond F--ked​

The ex-president operated like a Mafia boss and, thanks to a new racketeering charge, may go down like one too.
BY BESS LEVIN

On Monday night, in what has now become a regularly occurring event, Donald Trump was indicted for allegedly committing a whole bunch of crimes. This time it was by Fulton County district attorney Fani Willis, who accused the ex-president of plotting to overturn the 2020 election in Georgia, and charged him and 18 co-conspirators with, among other things, violating the state’s RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) Act. If the terms “RICO” and “racketeer” sound familiar to you but you can’t figure out why, it’s probably because the law, passed on the federal level in 1970, has been famously used to crack down on organized crime groups like the Mafia, members of which are probably currently throwing around terms like “numbnuts” and “jamoke” in reference to the ex-president. In addition to the RICO charge, the Fulton County indictment includes more than three dozen counts, 13 of which Trump was charged with.

While Trump has obviously been indicted before—see the Manhattan hush money indictment, Jack Smith’s classified-documents indictment, and Smith’s election-interference indictment—the Georgia case should be especially worrisome to him given that 1) he can’t simply pardon himself if he becomes president again, as the case is state and not federal, and 2) the racketeering charge alone carries a minimum sentence of five years in prison, with a maximum of 20. (Other counts would of course also come with prison time; a conspiracy conviction, for example, would result in a minimum of a year in prison.)

Willis has said she wants the case to go to trial within the next six months, which would put it well before the general election. And based on the 98-page indictment, it seems pretty unlikely that things will go well for the former guy. Among the craziest allegations that are unlikely to convince a jury that the ex-president and his associates are innocent?

Trump was plotting to overturn the election before the election even happened
As the indictment notes, Trump’s false claim on November 4, 2020, that he had won the election was not some off-the-cuff, spur-of-the-moment declaration made in the heat of the moment. Rather, “approximately four days earlier, on or about October 31, 2020, DONALD JOHN TRUMP discussed a draft speech with unindicted co-conspirator Individual l…that falsely declared victory and falsely claimed voter fraud. The speech was an overt act in furtherance oft he conspiracy.”

Trump and then chief of staff Mark Meadows wanted an actual memo written re: blocking the certification of Joe Biden’s win
Note to anyone thinking of trying to overturn a free and fair election: maybe don’t commit your plan to pen and paper? From the indictment:

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“Just Say That the Election Was Corrupt, and Leave the Rest to Me”: In Georgia, Donald Trump Appears Beyond F--ked

The ex-president operated like a Mafia boss and, thanks to a new racketeering charge, may go down like one too.
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Shiftless2 said:
DJ #190
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We've seen Trump at it long enough to recognize the pattern.

If an ugly duckling wants to be the prettiest in the room he can spend a few hours with the people from hair & makeup (a metaphor for improving himself), - or -
he can insure everyone else in the room is even uglier.

It's page #one from the Trump political playbook.
While others are stumbling over Trump's evasions, accusations, & self-righteousness Trump in comparison appears to the naïve to be a leader.
In this case naïve connotes a credulity that impedes effective functioning in a practical world.

Is Trump really fooling anyone that doesn't wish to be deceived?
 

Giuliani visited Mar-a-Lago seeking help paying ‘ballooning’ legal fees – report​

CNN reports the mayor turned Trump attorney visited in April but that ex-president ‘didn’t seem very interested’
Martin Pengelly

The New York mayor turned Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani made a largely fruitless visit to Mar-a-Lago to plead for help paying “ballooning” legal fees arising from work for the former president, CNN reported.


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Citing unnamed sources, the network said Giuliani met Donald Trump at his Florida resort in April. Trump, “who is notoriously strict about dipping into his own coffers, didn’t seem very interested” and only “verbally agreed” to help pay some bills and to support fundraisers for his ally, according to CNN.

One source said “Trump only agreed to cover a small fee from a data vendor hosting Giuliani’s records”, a payment CNN said was made.

Giuliani may have had reason to hope for more. Last year, a biographer, Andrew Kirtzman, reported that when Giuliani experienced problems with drinking and depression stoked by his failed presidential run in 2008, Trump gave him refuge at Mar-a-Lago, including the use of private tunnels to avoid press attention.

Giuliani now faces proliferating legal difficulties and expenses arising from...

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Giuliani visited Mar-a-Lago seeking help paying ‘ballooning’ legal fees – report

CNN reports the mayor turned Trump attorney visited in April but that ex-president ‘didn’t seem very interested’
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A personal note from sear:
Shiftless2 said:

Giuliani visited Mar-a-Lago seeking help paying ‘ballooning’ legal fees​

CNN reports / Martin Pengelly #192
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When federal prosecutor Giuliani was making headlines busting mob bosses under the RICO statute I held Mr. Giuliani in high esteem. During that period of Giuliani's career Rudy seemed to be a fearless crime fighter.
The bloom is off the rose.

"Ballooning legal fees"?
You're a lawyer, right Rudy? Did you not know your conduct would lead to this? How the mighty have fallen?

MS #193

Over-played.
I don't see a huge difference. I do sense Trump is trying to compensate with vehemence what he lacks in legitimacy.
"He is terrified." SG #190
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Exaggerated, but it does seem Trump's counsel has impressed on Trump the risks these indictments present.

... So who's going to get the Republican nomination?
 
sear said:
When federal prosecutor Giuliani was making headlines busting mob bosses under the RICO statute I held Mr. Giuliani in high esteem. During that period of Giuliani's career Rudy seemed to be a fearless crime fighter.
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Shortly after 911 I attended a conference where Rudy was the keynote luncheon speaker - impressive as hell. But he's gone completely off the rails in the intervening years.
 
Might the mayoralty have jinxed RG? Perhaps we can blame Trump. King Midas was cursed. Trump may be the antidote. Everyone Trump touches turns to fertilizer.
 

The Constitution Prohibits Trump From Ever Being President Again​

The only question is whether American citizens today can uphold that commitment.
By J. Michael Luttig and Laurence H. Tribe

August 19, 2023, 7:30 AM ET

As students of the United States Constitution for many decades—one of us as a U.S. Court of Appeals judge, the other as a professor of constitutional law, and both as constitutional advocates, scholars, and practitioners—we long ago came to the conclusion that the Fourteenth Amendment, the amendment ratified in 1868 that represents our nation’s second founding and a new birth of freedom, contains within it a protection against the dissolution of the republic by a treasonous president.

This protection, embodied in the amendment’s often-overlooked Section 3, automatically excludes from future office and position of power in the United States government—and also from any equivalent office and position of power in the sovereign states and their subdivisions—any person who has taken an oath to support and defend our Constitution and thereafter rebels against that sacred charter, either through overt insurrection or by giving aid or comfort to the Constitution’s enemies.

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The Constitution Prohibits Trump From Ever Being President Again

The only question is whether American citizens today can uphold that commitment.
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