What to call this thread?

"Every leading medical association supports trans people." #1,622
As well they should.
And while this isn't intended to undermine the virtue of this support,
as an inquiry into the dynamic of simple practice:

do these medical associations benefit from this support? Perverse incentive?
 
"I don't see how they can." S2 #1,624
A bigger tent means a larger constituency.
And embracing the cause expands political power (in a "democracy").

I discern you understand my #1,623 inquiry is not antagonistic, but rather more politically prophylactic.
If those that champion diversity are accused of doing so for self-interest, perhaps self-$gain at the expense of others, it undermines the coalition.
That's what we want to not do.
"Political power grows from the barrel of a gun." Chairman Mao: The Little Red Book
Mao-ser:
you talk like a commie.
In the United States of America political power grows from spectacular lies ... and the voting booth.
"I will build a great, great wall on our Southern border. And I will have Mexico pay for that wall, mark my words." Republican primary presidential candidate Donald J. Trump 15/06/16 www.DonaldJTrump.com
 
Over to the Supreme Court

 
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In a striking act of defiance, just hours before a statewide ban came into force, Salt Lake City’s mayor moved to officially recognize the Pride, Transgender, and Juneteenth flags as city symbols. The decision highlights a firm stance on inclusion and visibility, even as restrictions on LGBTQ+ expression grow.

At a moment when debates around identity and representation are intensifying nationwide, the move signals clear support for LGBTQ+ communities and people of color—reaffirming a commitment to diversity, equality, and social progress.

SOURCE with comments
 
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The Montana Supreme Court has upheld a lower court order blocking the enforcement of state policies that restricted transgender people from updating gender markers on birth certificates and driver’s licenses.

In a 5–2 decision in Kalarchik v. State of Montana, the court said the policies may violate protections against s-x discrimination under the Montana Constitution. The ruling keeps the restrictions on hold while the case continues in lower court.

The dispute began after Montana passed laws and agency rules limiting changes to identity documents. Transgender plaintiffs, supported by the ACLU, argued the policies created barriers and exposed people to harm when their identification did not match their gender identity.

The decision means transgender residents in Montana can continue updating certain state identification documents while the legal case moves forward.

SOURCE
 
"Trans people have always been there and always will be." S2 #1,628
Can we get some factual clarification on this precise detail?

What does "trans" mean? An abbreviation of the word "transition"?

"The Montana Supreme Court has upheld a lower court order blocking the enforcement of state policies that restricted transgender people from updating gender markers on birth certificates and driver’s licenses." #1,630
Superficially this may seem good news.
Broader spectrum isn't it alarming that such modest, appropriate due process is celebrated as a victory?
 
" We have always been there ..." ? Three centuries ago?
Yep - "Transgender people have existed throughout history, with documented examples spanning thousands of years, including Gala priestesses in ancient Sumeria (5000–3000 B.C.) and Roman figures like Emperor Elagabalus. Historical figures such as surgeon James Barry (1789–1865) and Lili Elbe (1882–1931) lived and transitioned despite limited medical understanding and social acceptance."


And from Wiki

 
Yep - "Transgender people have existed throughout history, with documented examples spanning thousands of years, ... #1,634
I'm eager to avoid debating the issue beyond acknowledging it's unlikely that surgical transitions were common before the invention of the scalpel.

What I am tenacious about is equal rights.
Their history is immaterial to that. They're here now. That's what matters.
"He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." Thomas Paine
"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets." KJV Matthew 7:12
inspiration for The Golden Rule
 
I'm eager to avoid debating the issue beyond acknowledging it's unlikely that surgical transitions were common before the invention of the scalpel.
An individual doesn't have to go thru surgery to be trans.

But the first sex change operation dates to 1931.

Dora Richter is recognized as the first known trans woman to undergo complete male-to-female gender-affirming surgery in 1931, performed by Dr. Magnus Hirschfeld in Berlin. Another early recipient, Lili Elbe, had surgeries between 1930 and 1931. Christine Jorgensen became the most famous early recipient, undergoing surgeries in 1952, which brought international attention to the procedure.

Key Historical Figures and Early Surgeries
  • Dora Richter (1931): A German trans woman, she underwent orchiectomy in 1922 and complete vaginoplasty in 1931 at Berlin's Institute for Sexual Research.
  • Lili Elbe (1930-1931): A Danish painter, she underwent four surgeries in Germany, including experimental ovarian and uterus transplants, dying from complications.
    • Karl M. Baer (1906): Known as the first trans man to undergo gender reassignment surgery (genital reconstruction) in 1906, having been assigned female at birth.
    • Christine Jorgensen (1952): While not the very first, her 1952 surgery in Denmark was the most widely publicized, leading to her becoming a prominent advocate for transgender rights in the United States

They're here now. That's what matters.
Absolutely
 
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