"How long after the invasion does the invading army have to wait?" mm #28
That's twice in less than 12 hours you've surprised me mm.
Senator
Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY) called that "semantic infiltration". The truth is as you probably know, such legitimacy is not determined by time elapsed. It's determined by the will of that specific population, and the legitimacy of the process. Once coercive military force is involved, meticulous scrutiny is required.
Our international trade partners and military allies seem to have a fairly wholesome respect for Ukraine's position. It's simple pragmatism.
"He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." U.S. Founder Thomas Paine
"I recall general approval when Britain organised similar elections in India Pakistan and Ireland" mm #28
Did Britain first conduct an entirely unprovoked full scale military invasion with echelons of tanks, and rape and torture children?
I believe you're smart enough to distinguish
what has been done with
how it was done. The "sanity check" that verifies the absurdity of your comparison is that Britain exerts no substantial hegemony on India.
Greetings Zhelana. Welcome to @CV.
"They have not been fighting a war of independence. Russia has been fighting to force them into independence." Z #27
Independence from Ukraine, but dependence upon Russia.
"child rape, torture... why would any sane person side with Russia?" Z #27
I'd think the differential in standard of living would suffice. Add the human rights differential, including Russia's war crimes,
it would seem to make Russia a hard sell. Reports are filtering out of Russia of conscription-aged Russian men are fleeing in droves.
Think it through Vlady. Flogging the mule's corpse won't make it run faster.
Thanks for joining us @CV Z #27.
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"The being "held at gun point" there are many elections held at gun point what is important is that the election is "free and fair"" mm #28
Are you suggesting there are free & fair elections held at gunpoint?
Z #29
I acknowledge what may look like naïveté may have some semblance of validity. I certainly believe Russian agents helped foment pro-Russian sentiment in Eastern Ukraine.
It's dreadful of course. But the U.S.' hands haven't been clean of it since Ike helped undermine Iran's duly elected Mosaddegh. But that's ancient history, and Russia / Ukraine is today.
"I would have expected The US government under Trumps presidency to have been all over that (if it were true)" mm #30
Seemingly plausible perhaps. But it's a fundamental misread of Trump. Trump liked thugs, a lot!
“There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea.” President Trump 2018, after his poorly prepared summit w/ NK/KJU
“We fell in love.” President Trump commenting on his relationship w/ NK/KJU