The Second Term of Donald J. Trump as President of the United States of America

"Obama 2028" #3,881
Not clear to me why LQ #3,881 holds such a dim view of President Obama she thinks he should be punished by having to serve another 4 years. We are already indebted to President Obama for his faithful service.

"TDS" #3,882
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"Just in case you wondered what TDS stands for" #3,882
Difficult enough for me to figure out what the Republican party stands for.

Trump has spent $Millions trying to get the Lincoln memorial reflecting pool back to being water-tight, the way it was before he started spending $Millions on it. Seem wasteful?
It is. BUT !
Trump has spent $Tens of $Billions on trying to get the Strait of Hormuz back the way it was before he started spending $Billions on it.
Can you name a worse president of the United States? Ever? There's over 250 years of history to choose from.
 
Not clear to me why LQ #3,881 holds such a dim view of President Obama she thinks he should be punished by having to serve another 4 years. We are already indebted to President Obama for his faithful service.


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Difficult enough for me to figure out what the Republican party stands for.

Trump has spent $Millions trying to get the Lincoln memorial reflecting pool back to being water-tight, the way it was before he started spending $Millions on it. Seem wasteful?
It is. BUT !
Trump has spent $Tens of $Billions on trying to get the Strait of Hormuz back the way it was before he started spending $Billions on it.
Can you name a worse president of the United States? Ever? There's over 250 years of history to choose from.

Obama was certainly a much better speaker than Bush or Trump.
But there were disappointments.
Obama had campaigned as anti-war, and then he indulged the whole "Arab Spring" series of wars Hillary was pushing.
Instead of public health care, he also mandated private health insurance.
 
"Obama was certainly a much better speaker than Bush or Trump.
But ... " R5 #3,884
"Damned with faint praise." Pappy

For many years the Republican demigod was Ronald Reagan.
When Governor Reagan debated President Carter, Reagan [an experienced movie star] began his summation
by looking into the camera and asking: "Are you better off ...?"
Governor Reagan's message: you want four more years of this ?!

By that precise Republican standard, the day Senator Obama was inaugurated president the U.S. (Bush administration) economy was in crisis.
The path to prosperity quickly ensued, and Obama maintained it for 8 years.

How does that contrast to Trump?
Promises made, promises broken.
"I am going to take care of everybody. I don't care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody's gunna be taken care of much better than they're taken care of now." Candidate Trump 15/09/27 to CBS Scott Pelly

"You're going to have such great healthcare at a tiny fraction of the cost." candidate Trump 16/10/25 from campaign podium
 
"Damned with faint praise." Pappy

For many years the Republican demigod was Ronald Reagan.
When Governor Reagan debated President Carter, Reagan [an experienced movie star] began his summation
by looking into the camera and asking: "Are you better off ...?"
Governor Reagan's message: you want four more years of this ?!

By that precise Republican standard, the day Senator Obama was inaugurated president the U.S. (Bush administration) economy was in crisis.
The path to prosperity quickly ensued, and Obama maintained it for 8 years.

How does that contrast to Trump?
Promises made, promises broken.

But I did not like Obama's response to the 2008 recession.
It would have cost exactly the same to bail out the home owners getting evicted, instead of the banks who gave out the deceptive balloon payment mortgages.

I was not impressed by how long and how much it cost to survive the 2008 recession.
Obama cause the National Debt to go from $8 trillion to $14 trillon.
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Over the weekend, Republican Steve Schmidt, who ran John McCain's 2008 campaign for president, was interviewed on MSNBC.

In response to a very general question regarding the Trump Presidency, Mr. Schmidt spoke for two solid minutes and gave the most insightful and brutally honest response of what the Trump Presidency has done to our great country.

“Donald Trump has been the worst president this country has ever had. And, I don't say that hyperbolically. He is. But he is a consequential president. And, he has brought this country in three short years to a place of weakness that is simply unimaginable if you were pondering where we are today from the day where Barack Obama left office. And, there were a lot of us on that day who were deeply skeptical and very worried about what a Trump presidency would be. But this is a moment of unparalleled national humiliation, of weakness.”

"When you listen to the President, these are the musings of an imbecile. An idiot. And I don't use those words to name call. I use them because they are the precise words of the English language to describe his behavior. His comportment. His actions. We've never seen a level of incompetence, a level of ineptitude so staggering on a daily basis by anybody in the history of the country who’s ever been charged with substantial responsibilities.”

"It's just astonishing that this man is president of the United States. The man, the con man, from New York City. Many bankruptcies, failed businesses, a reality show, that branded him as something that he never was. A successful businessman. Well, he's the President of the United States now, and the man who said he would make the country great again. And he's brought death, suffering, and economic collapse on truly an epic scale."

"And, let's be clear. This isn't happening in every country around the world. This place. Our place. Our home. Our country. The United States. We are the epicenter. We are the place where you're the most likely to die from this disease. We're the ones with the most shattered economy. And we are, because of the fool that sits in the Oval Office behind the Resolute Desk.

SOURCE with comments

This refers to his first term but it's even worse this time around
 
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I think the Great Depression was cause more by trade wars than by the stock market collapse.
Trade wars are not logical and should likely be illegal in my opinion.
 
Agreed they're not logical but unless you can somehow pass a law that applies to every country on the planet (all 200 or so of them) AND you can convince them to obey that law ....

I think the 1906 Geneva Conventions already make impediments to civilian commerce illegal.
 
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