The Second Term of Donald J. Trump as President of the United States of America
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Trump administration fires prosecutors involved in Jan. 6 cases and moves toward ousting FBI agents
By ERIC TUCKER and ALANNA DURKIN RICHERThe Trump administration on Friday fired a group of prosecutors involved in the Jan. 6 criminal cases and demanded the names of FBI agents involved in those same probes so they can possibly be ousted, moves that reflect a White House determination to exert control over federal law enforcement and purge agencies of career employees seen as insufficiently loyal.
Acting Deputy Attorney General Emil Bove ordered the firings of the Jan. 6 prosecutors days after President Donald Trump’s sweeping clemency action benefiting the more than 1,500 people charged in the U.S. Capitol attack, according to a memo obtained by The Associated Press. About two dozen employees at the U.S. attorney’s office in Washington were terminated, according to a person familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss personnel matters.
A separate memo by Bove identified more than a half-dozen FBI senior executives who were ordered to resign or be fired by Monday, and also asked for the names and records related to all agents who worked on investigations into the Jan. 6, 2021, U.S. Capitol riot — a list the bureau’s acting director said could number in the thousands. Bove, who was defended Trump in his criminal cases before joining the administration, said Justice Department officials would then carry out a “review process to determine whether any additional personnel actions are necessary.”
“As we’ve said since the moment we agreed to take on these roles, we are going to follow the law, follow FBI policy, and do what’s in the best interest of the workforce and the American people — always,” Acting FBI Director Brian Driscoll wrote in a letter to the workforce.
The prosecutors who were fired in the D.C. U.S. attorney’s office had been hired for temporary assignments to support the Jan. 6 cases, but were moved into permanent roles after Trump’s presidential win in November, according to the memo obtained by the AP. Bove, the acting deputy attorney general, said he would not “tolerate subversive personnel actions by the previous administration.”
Any mass firings at the FBI would be a major blow to the historic independence from the White House of the nation’s premier federal law enforcement agency and would reflect Trump’s persistent resolve to bend the law enforcement and intelligence community to his will. It would be part of a startling pattern of retribution waged on ...
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Have y'all forgotten how he promised to lower prices on everything, yet tariffs start today, and he's taxing nearly every import? Have you MAGAts figured out that the American public will pay these tariffs, not the foreign countries?
And we have this:
And we have this:
Tariffs Explained to MAGA by a Professional Importer/Exporter
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On the topic of 'birthright citizenship"
Under Mr Trump’s order, from next month the federal government will refuse to issue “documents recognising American citizenship” (presumably passports) to newborns unless they have one parent who is either a citizen or a permanent resident of the United States. The children of unauthorised immigrants born in America would thus be excluded. But so too would those of around 3m people living in America on exchange, work or student visas.
Relatively few rich countries automatically extend citizenship to everyone born on their territory (though Canada does, as do most countries in Latin America). America started doing so at the end of the Civil War. The constitution was amended then to overturn the Dred Scott decision of 1857, which held that black people were not Americans. The 14th Amendment ensured that freed slaves and their children would henceforth be citizens.
Mr Trump’s argument is that the 14th Amendment “has never been interpreted to extend citizenship universally to everyone born within the United States”. Narrowly speaking, this is true. The American-born children of foreign diplomats, who have immunity from prosecution, have always been excluded from American citizenship, under the clause about jurisdiction. Until the passage of the Indian Citizenship Act in 1924, so too were some native Americans who belonged to sovereign tribes. But Mr Trump seems to think the jurisdiction clause allows him to exclude the children of even some legal immigrants from birthright citizenship.
To justify this he draws on fringe thinking, which has gained adherents on the right since the early 1990s. Republican representatives in Congress have repeatedly introduced laws ending birthright citizenship, though none has got out of committee, notes Peter Spiro, an expert in citizenship at Temple University in Philadelphia. The argument made is that when ....
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To end birthright citizenship, Trump misreads the constitution
It would also create huge practical problems
IN HIS INAUGURATION speech, Donald Trump promised that in his administration, “we will not forget our constitution.” The promise did not last long. Before the day was over, Mr Trump had signed an executive order that, if implemented, would apparently end birthright citizenship, which is guaranteed by the 14th Amendment to the constitution. According to the plain text of the amendment, “all persons born or naturalised in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States”. It doesn’t mean what it appears to mean, Mr Trump claims.Under Mr Trump’s order, from next month the federal government will refuse to issue “documents recognising American citizenship” (presumably passports) to newborns unless they have one parent who is either a citizen or a permanent resident of the United States. The children of unauthorised immigrants born in America would thus be excluded. But so too would those of around 3m people living in America on exchange, work or student visas.
Relatively few rich countries automatically extend citizenship to everyone born on their territory (though Canada does, as do most countries in Latin America). America started doing so at the end of the Civil War. The constitution was amended then to overturn the Dred Scott decision of 1857, which held that black people were not Americans. The 14th Amendment ensured that freed slaves and their children would henceforth be citizens.
Mr Trump’s argument is that the 14th Amendment “has never been interpreted to extend citizenship universally to everyone born within the United States”. Narrowly speaking, this is true. The American-born children of foreign diplomats, who have immunity from prosecution, have always been excluded from American citizenship, under the clause about jurisdiction. Until the passage of the Indian Citizenship Act in 1924, so too were some native Americans who belonged to sovereign tribes. But Mr Trump seems to think the jurisdiction clause allows him to exclude the children of even some legal immigrants from birthright citizenship.
To justify this he draws on fringe thinking, which has gained adherents on the right since the early 1990s. Republican representatives in Congress have repeatedly introduced laws ending birthright citizenship, though none has got out of committee, notes Peter Spiro, an expert in citizenship at Temple University in Philadelphia. The argument made is that when ....
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Considering that the list you've cited is a tiny fraction of the full Trump list, it appears your conclusion is rather more a lament than a call to action.
"No one is above the law" except DJT. Seems like hyperbole? In another administration it might be.
Typically when the law is broken, consequences ensue. Trump has no de jure exemption.
The opposite is true, Trump's fidelity oath to the Constitution requires Trump to:
"... take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" Art.2 Sect.3
But the de facto reality is, if Trump were treated as subject to law, we would not have witnessed:
Not alarming enough?
Trump's purge is removing those Trump perceives may be a threat.
Not alarming enough?
High school civic class grads. know the U.S. federal government has 3 branches:
- executive
- legislative
- judicial.
Do they know that the U.S. Department of Justice (DoJ) is not part of the judicial branch, but is part of the executive branch?
The attorney general heads the DoJ, and the attorney general reports directly to the president. More from Wikipedia
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In my public school district school budgets are subject to, determined by referendum, the collective will of voters, the taxpayers in the district.
It is a painful irony that the anti-education MAGAs have demonstrated their electoral plurality, thus serving as the gatekeepers of ignorance.
- oh well -
Makes a nice bumper-sticker:
Trump Vowed to 'Immediately' Bring Down Egg Prices. His New Press Secretary Says Sudden Spike Is Biden's Fault
Rachel Raposas / Fri, January 31, 2025 at 2:40 PM ESTWhite House press secretary Karoline Leavitt has been forced to address the sudden rise in egg prices
- Donald Trump made a campaign promise to "immediately bring prices down" on his first day in office. Instead, egg prices have spiked.
- During her first White House briefing, press secretary Karoline Leavitt blamed former President Joe Biden for hurting the egg supply and driving up costs.
- Egg prices are expected to continue rising due to a bird flu outbreak, which Biden's Department of Agriculture tried controlling early on by euthanizing infected chickens.
In her first official White House press briefing on Tuesday, Leavitt, 27, blamed former President Joe Biden for rising costs with "everything" across the country right now — including eggs, which have started to increase in price and demand due to bird flu outbreaks among chicken flocks.
"There's a lot of reporting out there that's putting the onus on this White House for the increased cost of eggs," Leavitt said. "I'd like to point out to each and every one of you that in 2024 when Joe Biden was in the Oval Office — or upstairs in the residence sleeping, I'm not so sure — egg prices increased 65 percent in this country."
CNN previously noted that, while inflation plagued a significant chunk of Biden's presidency due to factors like the COVID-19 pandemic and the war in Ukraine, wages in the United States had begun to outpace rising grocery prices in 2024. Any progress made on the cost of eggs was recently thwarted by the bird flu outbreak, which created supply issues and was not a direct fault of either president.
Trump Vowed to 'Immediately' Bring Down Egg Prices. His New Press Secretary Says Sudden Spike Is Biden's Fault
White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt is aiming to prevent her boss from falling into the same trap as Biden, whose early presidency was infamously remembered as an expensive era for eggs
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Egg prices may soon seem trivial if the near unified economist's predictions of Trump's trade war prove true.
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Regardless of how the budget is set at the end of the day the principal is the one who decides who teaches what and that depends on his available staff.
My grade 9 math teacher was one of the phys ed teachers (football coach) and my grade 10 math teacher was actually one of the drafting teachers. Neither one was bad and for the rest of my high school career my math teachers were all members of the math department (people with honest to goodness degrees in math).
But back to civics - if the teacher sees that a gym teacher has free periods and doesn't have the budget to hire a dedicated civics teacher (and the history teachers are solidly booked) what's he going to do? Who is he going to assign to civics classes?
Yes, BUT !
And that in turn depends on the $budget.
Easier than shooting pickles from a barrel to point the accusatory finger at the principal.
But s/he can only work within the budget the district's $taxpayers choose to provide.
It's a confounding problem.
State or federal funds to needy (deficient) schools might seem a useful stop-gap.
Problem is that ends up being a system that $rewards poor performance, the worse the school performs, the more $$$ they get?
Maybe we should all just give up, and eat dirt.
note:
One of my keenest insights into what makes a exceptionally good teacher, are the teachers that weren't.
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Education Department employees placed on leave for attending diversity training
Story by Bianca QuilantanFederal employees at the Education Department could be placed on administrative leave for previously attending a diversity training.
Several employees began receiving leave notices late Friday and reported them to their local union president at the American Federation of Government Employees, confirmed Brittany Holder, deputy communications director at AFGE, which represents federal workers at the agency.
The action comes as President Donald Trump has ordered federal agencies to examine and dismantle any programs or initiatives that seek to bolster diversity, equity and inclusion. A memo reviewed by POLITICO that was sent Friday informed agency workers that they had been placed on leave because of the president's executive order on DEIA and further guidance from the Office of Personnel Management.
Employees placed on leave are receiving full pay and benefits and the memo clarified the leave was not based on disciplinary reasons. But the union said it’s possible that ....
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From the president inaugurated on Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day.
Updated Jan. 31, 2025, 9:31 PM GMT-5
By Ken Dilanian, Alexandra Marquez, Claretta Bellamy and Dan De Luce
WASHINGTON — Federal agencies on Friday rushed to comply with President Donald Trump’s executive orders aimed at curtailing diversity, equity and inclusion programs.
The executive orders prompted a flurry of memos and emails obtained by NBC News that modified the rules for staff at intelligence agencies, in the military and across civilian departments regarding employee resource groups and the celebration of cultural awareness events.
This week, the Defense Intelligence Agency ordered a pause of all activities and events related to Martin Luther King Jr. Day, Black History Month, Juneteenth, LGBTQ Pride Month, Holocaust Remembrance Day and other "special observances" to comply with President Donald Trump's executive order, according to a memo obtained by NBC News.
The memo listed 11 observances that are now banned. It also said that all affinity groups and "employee networking groups" are immediately on pause.
www.nbcnews.com
note:
There was more than one U.S. flag carried to the capitol insurrection, albeit along with other lesser banners, the rebel battle flag, various Trump displays ...
The implication of displaying a U.S. flag is endorsement.
How can we not recognize the hypocrisy of those that simultaneously display the U.S. flag, while attempting to overthrow the federal government it represents?
They want their treacherous cause to bear the prestige of the patriot. Who are they fooling, other than themselves?
Updated Jan. 31, 2025, 9:31 PM GMT-5
By Ken Dilanian, Alexandra Marquez, Claretta Bellamy and Dan De Luce
WASHINGTON — Federal agencies on Friday rushed to comply with President Donald Trump’s executive orders aimed at curtailing diversity, equity and inclusion programs.
The executive orders prompted a flurry of memos and emails obtained by NBC News that modified the rules for staff at intelligence agencies, in the military and across civilian departments regarding employee resource groups and the celebration of cultural awareness events.
This week, the Defense Intelligence Agency ordered a pause of all activities and events related to Martin Luther King Jr. Day, Black History Month, Juneteenth, LGBTQ Pride Month, Holocaust Remembrance Day and other "special observances" to comply with President Donald Trump's executive order, according to a memo obtained by NBC News.
The memo listed 11 observances that are now banned. It also said that all affinity groups and "employee networking groups" are immediately on pause.
Federal agencies bar Black History Month and other 'special observances'
A number of federal agencies have banned celebrations related to MLK Jr. Day, Women's History Month and other such observances to comply with Trump's executive orders.
www.nbcnews.com
note:
There was more than one U.S. flag carried to the capitol insurrection, albeit along with other lesser banners, the rebel battle flag, various Trump displays ...
The implication of displaying a U.S. flag is endorsement.
How can we not recognize the hypocrisy of those that simultaneously display the U.S. flag, while attempting to overthrow the federal government it represents?
They want their treacherous cause to bear the prestige of the patriot. Who are they fooling, other than themselves?
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The best, most cogent and elegantly simple explanation into the inexplicably destructive negotiating processes of the president,by Prof. David Honig of Indiana University.
Everybody I know should read this accurate and enlightening piece...
“I’m going to get a little wonky and write about Donald Trump and negotiations. For those who don't know, I'm an adjunct professor at Indiana University - Robert H. McKinney School of Law and I teach negotiations. Okay, here goes.
Trump, as most of us know, is the credited author of "The Art of the Deal," a book that was actually ghost written by a man named Tony Schwartz, who was given access to Trump and wrote based upon his observations. If you've read The Art of the Deal, or if you've followed Trump lately, you'll know, even if you didn't know the label, that he sees all dealmaking as what we call "distributive bargaining."
Distributive bargaining always has a winner and a loser. It happens when there is a fixed quantity of something and two sides are fighting over how it gets distributed. Think of it as a pie and you're fighting over who gets how many pieces. In Trump's world, the bargaining was for a building, or for construction work, or subcontractors. He perceives a successful bargain as one in which there is a winner and a loser, so if he pays less than the seller wants, he wins. The more he saves the more he wins.
The other type of bargaining is called integrative bargaining. In integrative bargaining the two sides don't have a complete conflict of interest, and it is possible to reach mutually beneficial agreements. Think of it, not a single pie to be divided by two hungry people, but as a baker and a caterer negotiating over how many pies will be baked at what prices, and the nature of their ongoing relationship after this one gig is over.
The problem with Trump is that he sees only distributive bargaining in an international world that requires integrative bargaining. He can raise tariffs, but so can other countries.
He can't demand they not respond. There is no defined end to the negotiation and there is no simple winner and loser. There are always more pies to be baked. Further, negotiations aren't binary. China's choices aren't (a) buy soybeans from US farmers, or (b) don't buy soybeans. They can also (c) buy soybeans from Russia, or Argentina, or Brazil, or Canada, etc. That completely strips the distributive bargainer of his power to win or lose, to control the negotiation.
One of the risks of distributive bargaining is bad will. In a one-time distributive bargain, e.g. negotiating with the cabinet maker in your casino about whether you're going to pay his whole bill or demand a discount, you don't have to worry about your ongoing credibility or the next deal. If you do that to the cabinet maker, you can bet he won't agree to do the cabinets in your next casino, and you're going to have to find another cabinet maker.
There isn't another Canada.
So when you approach international negotiation, in a world as complex as ours, with integrated economies and multiple buyers and sellers, you simply must approach them through integrative bargaining. If you attempt distributive bargaining, success is impossible. And we see that already.
Trump has raised tariffs on China. China responded, in addition to raising tariffs on US goods, by dropping all its soybean orders from the US and buying them from Russia. The effect is not only to cause tremendous harm to US farmers, but also to increase Russian revenue, making Russia less susceptible to sanctions and boycotts, increasing its economic and political power in the world, and reducing ours. Trump saw steel and aluminum and thought it would be an easy win, BECAUSE HE SAW ONLY STEEL AND ALUMINUM - HE SEES EVERY NEGOTIATION AS DISTRIBUTIVE. China saw it as integrative, and integrated Russia and its soybean purchase orders into a far more complex negotiation ecosystem.
Trump has the same weakness politically. For every winner there must be a loser. And that's just not how politics works, not over the long run.
For people who study negotiations, this is incredibly basic stuff, negotiations 101, definitions you learn before you even start talking about styles and tactics. And here's another huge problem for us.
Trump is utterly convinced that his experience in a closely held real estate company has prepared him to run a nation, and therefore he rejects the advice of people who spent entire careers studying the nuances of international negotiations and diplomacy. But the leaders on the other side of the table have not eschewed expertise, they have embraced it. And that means they look at Trump and, given his very limited tool chest and his blindly distributive understanding of negotiation, they know exactly what he is going to do and exactly how to respond to it.
From a professional negotiation point of view, Trump isn't even bringing checkers to a chess match. He's bringing a quarter that he insists of flipping for heads or tails, while everybody else is studying the chess board to decide whether its better to open with Najdorf or Grünfeld.”
— David Honig
The best, most cogent and elegantly simple explanation into the inexplicably destructive negotiating processes of the president,by Prof. David Honig of Indiana University.
Everybody I know should read this accurate and enlightening piece...
“I’m going to get a little wonky and write about Donald Trump and negotiations. For those who don't know, I'm an adjunct professor at Indiana University - Robert H. McKinney School of Law and I teach negotiations. Okay, here goes.
Trump, as most of us know, is the credited author of "The Art of the Deal," a book that was actually ghost written by a man named Tony Schwartz, who was given access to Trump and wrote based upon his observations. If you've read The Art of the Deal, or if you've followed Trump lately, you'll know, even if you didn't know the label, that he sees all dealmaking as what we call "distributive bargaining."
Distributive bargaining always has a winner and a loser. It happens when there is a fixed quantity of something and two sides are fighting over how it gets distributed. Think of it as a pie and you're fighting over who gets how many pieces. In Trump's world, the bargaining was for a building, or for construction work, or subcontractors. He perceives a successful bargain as one in which there is a winner and a loser, so if he pays less than the seller wants, he wins. The more he saves the more he wins.
The other type of bargaining is called integrative bargaining. In integrative bargaining the two sides don't have a complete conflict of interest, and it is possible to reach mutually beneficial agreements. Think of it, not a single pie to be divided by two hungry people, but as a baker and a caterer negotiating over how many pies will be baked at what prices, and the nature of their ongoing relationship after this one gig is over.
The problem with Trump is that he sees only distributive bargaining in an international world that requires integrative bargaining. He can raise tariffs, but so can other countries.
He can't demand they not respond. There is no defined end to the negotiation and there is no simple winner and loser. There are always more pies to be baked. Further, negotiations aren't binary. China's choices aren't (a) buy soybeans from US farmers, or (b) don't buy soybeans. They can also (c) buy soybeans from Russia, or Argentina, or Brazil, or Canada, etc. That completely strips the distributive bargainer of his power to win or lose, to control the negotiation.
One of the risks of distributive bargaining is bad will. In a one-time distributive bargain, e.g. negotiating with the cabinet maker in your casino about whether you're going to pay his whole bill or demand a discount, you don't have to worry about your ongoing credibility or the next deal. If you do that to the cabinet maker, you can bet he won't agree to do the cabinets in your next casino, and you're going to have to find another cabinet maker.
There isn't another Canada.
So when you approach international negotiation, in a world as complex as ours, with integrated economies and multiple buyers and sellers, you simply must approach them through integrative bargaining. If you attempt distributive bargaining, success is impossible. And we see that already.
Trump has raised tariffs on China. China responded, in addition to raising tariffs on US goods, by dropping all its soybean orders from the US and buying them from Russia. The effect is not only to cause tremendous harm to US farmers, but also to increase Russian revenue, making Russia less susceptible to sanctions and boycotts, increasing its economic and political power in the world, and reducing ours. Trump saw steel and aluminum and thought it would be an easy win, BECAUSE HE SAW ONLY STEEL AND ALUMINUM - HE SEES EVERY NEGOTIATION AS DISTRIBUTIVE. China saw it as integrative, and integrated Russia and its soybean purchase orders into a far more complex negotiation ecosystem.
Trump has the same weakness politically. For every winner there must be a loser. And that's just not how politics works, not over the long run.
For people who study negotiations, this is incredibly basic stuff, negotiations 101, definitions you learn before you even start talking about styles and tactics. And here's another huge problem for us.
Trump is utterly convinced that his experience in a closely held real estate company has prepared him to run a nation, and therefore he rejects the advice of people who spent entire careers studying the nuances of international negotiations and diplomacy. But the leaders on the other side of the table have not eschewed expertise, they have embraced it. And that means they look at Trump and, given his very limited tool chest and his blindly distributive understanding of negotiation, they know exactly what he is going to do and exactly how to respond to it.
From a professional negotiation point of view, Trump isn't even bringing checkers to a chess match. He's bringing a quarter that he insists of flipping for heads or tails, while everybody else is studying the chess board to decide whether its better to open with Najdorf or Grünfeld.”
— David Honig
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This photo montage is surprisingly similar to today's USA
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Not sure it rises to level of confession, I don't know what facebook is.
If I guess correctly it's a forum for disclosure of personal information
to billions of closest friends.
If that is even remotely close, I'll have no part of it.
If ever I was an account holder, it was only in my capacity as an
admin. @Ezboard / yuku / tapatalk, not out of resolute determination
to divulge sensitive personal information, simply my endeavor to investigate, identify, determine.
Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, R-Fla., has introduced a bill proposing to carve President Donald Trump into Mount Rushmore.
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'Let's get carving!': Congresswoman introduces bill to add Trump to Mount Rushmore
Florida Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna introduced a bill to carve President Donald Trump into Mount Rushmore alongside four other presidents.
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Raptors fans become latest to boo American national anthem as trade war heats up
Similar reactions broke out Saturday at NHL games in Ottawa, Calgary
John Chidley-Hill ·Fans at Scotiabank Arena loudly booed during the American national anthem before the Toronto Raptors hosted the Los Angeles Clippers on Sunday.
They then switched to loud cheers when "O Canada" began.
Fans of the NBA's lone Canadian franchise booed the anthem after similar reactions broke out Saturday night at NHL games in Ottawa and Calgary, hours after U.S. President Donald Trump made his threat of import tariffs on Canada a reality.
The strong reactions to both national anthems was likely in response to a mounting trade war between Canada and the United States.
Raptors forward Chris Boucher, of Montreal, was asked after his team's win over the Clippers whether he'd ever experienced something like that.
"No, no, no," he said. "But have you ever seen us getting taxed like that?"
'We're feeling a little bitter'
Joseph Chua, a Toronto resident who was at the game, said he's going to be feeling the tariffs "pretty directly" in his work as an importer.Still, he said he doesn't think booing is "the right thing to do in this situation." He chose to stay seated instead.
"I have a bunch of American family, friends that live in the states that are Americans, we travel to America all the time, but I thought chanting, `Canada,' would be a more appropriate stance," said Chua, who was deliberately wearing his red Canada Basketball cap. "Usually I will stand. I've always stood during both anthems. I've taken my hat off to show respect to the American national anthem, but today we're feeling a little ...
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And it continues ....
Staffers of the U.S. Agency for International Development were instructed to stay out of the agency’s Washington headquarters on Monday, according to a notice distributed to them, after billionaire Elon Musk announced President Donald Trump had agreed with him to shut the agency.
USAID staffers said they also tracked more than 600 employees who reported being locked out of the agency’s computer systems overnight. Those still in the system received emails saying that “at the direction of Agency leadership” the headquarters building “will be closed to Agency personnel on Monday, Feb. 3.”
The developments come after Musk, who’s leading an extraordinary civilian review of the federal government with the Republican president’s agreement, said early Monday that he had spoken with Trump about the six-decade U.S. aid and development agency and “he agreed we should shut it down.”
“It became apparent that its not an apple with a worm it in,” Musk said in a live session on X Spaces early Monday. “What we have is just a ball of worms. You’ve got to basically get rid of the whole thing. It’s beyond repair.”
“We’re shutting it down,” he said.
Musk, Trump and some Republican lawmakers have targeted the U.S. aid and development agency, which oversees humanitarian, development and security programs in some 120 countries, in increasingly strident terms, accusing it of promoting liberal causes.
Over the weekend, the Trump administration placed two top security chiefs at USAID on leave after they refused to turn over classified material in restricted areas to ...
USAID staffers told to stay out of Washington headquarters after Musk said Trump agreed to close it
By ELLEN KNICKMEYER and FATIMA HUSSEINStaffers of the U.S. Agency for International Development were instructed to stay out of the agency’s Washington headquarters on Monday, according to a notice distributed to them, after billionaire Elon Musk announced President Donald Trump had agreed with him to shut the agency.
USAID staffers said they also tracked more than 600 employees who reported being locked out of the agency’s computer systems overnight. Those still in the system received emails saying that “at the direction of Agency leadership” the headquarters building “will be closed to Agency personnel on Monday, Feb. 3.”
The developments come after Musk, who’s leading an extraordinary civilian review of the federal government with the Republican president’s agreement, said early Monday that he had spoken with Trump about the six-decade U.S. aid and development agency and “he agreed we should shut it down.”
“It became apparent that its not an apple with a worm it in,” Musk said in a live session on X Spaces early Monday. “What we have is just a ball of worms. You’ve got to basically get rid of the whole thing. It’s beyond repair.”
“We’re shutting it down,” he said.
Musk, Trump and some Republican lawmakers have targeted the U.S. aid and development agency, which oversees humanitarian, development and security programs in some 120 countries, in increasingly strident terms, accusing it of promoting liberal causes.
Over the weekend, the Trump administration placed two top security chiefs at USAID on leave after they refused to turn over classified material in restricted areas to ...
"... they are stunned by what is happening" Gov. Chris Christie commenting on the reaction of FBI agents reacting to the Trump witch-hunt against them, broadcast on ABC ThisWeek 25/02/02
"My country right or wrong" U.S. pseudo-pats might side with Trump on imposing tariffs on Canada.
My preference is for what is right, rather than what is Trump. I'm w/ Canada on this one.
Apparently Trump will have to learn this lesson by his own experience. Let us all hope once is enough.
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Elon Musk checks almost every box on the "Insider Threat" watchlist—unauthorized access attempts, suspicious email activity, using unapproved devices, etc. If he weren’t a billionaire, the FBI would have him in a holding cell faster than he can tweet out another lawsuit.
