Election 2024

He claims that he won the Iowa caucus in 2016 (he didn't - Cruz did)

"This is the third time we have won, but this is the biggest win." ~Trump last night, on winning the Iowa caucuses for the second time
 
titan said:
At ten o'clock Iowa is a Trump landslide. https://www.desmoinesregister.com/ #161
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So what happens if Trump wins the Republican nomination, and is then ruled ineligible to hold the presidency? Biden, in a walk? And Insurrection #2 after the results are announced?
Shiftless2 said:
"This is the third time we have won... ." ~Trump last night, on winning the Iowa caucuses for the second time #162
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- Perhaps Trump is lying.
- Perhaps Trump knows the truth, but believes this assertion will benefit himself.
- Perhaps Trump is at the limit of his own numeracy with numbers that soar that far up into the single digit.

 

Trump Used Her To Destroy DeSantis. Now, He’s In ‘Wreck-Nikki-Haley Mode’​

Team Trump avoided attacks on Nikki Haley last year to draw away support from Ron DeSantis — now, she’s the chief focus of the ex-president’s ire

www.rollingstone.com

Trump Used Her To Destroy DeSantis. Now, He's In 'Wreck-Nikki-Haley Mode'

Trump and his allies avoided attacks on Nikki Haley to draw away support from DeSantis — now, she’s the chief focus of the ex-president’s ire.
www.rollingstone.com www.rollingstone.com
 
Long article and, as it points out, this is unknown territory

The Supreme Court’s Silver-Bullet Solution to the 14th Amendment Problem​

Opinion by Elie Honig


An observation:

... Section 3 is clear about the ban on holding office. Section 5 says that Congress has the power to ENFORCE not override the provisions.
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Shiftless2 said:
#165
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A pro-Colorado, anti-Trump outcome doesn’t settle anything beyond the borders of the Rocky Mountain State. If the Court does leave disqualification up to the states, then every state’s determination becomes fodder for litigation: Did this state abide by its own procedures and afford Trump due process? The Supreme Court would essentially have to consider (or refuse to consider) each state’s disqualification determination, one by one — and there are around three dozen such challenges

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opin...e-14th-amendment-problem/ar-AA1mS02X#comments
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Individually most Republicans on SCOTUS may know the Republican backlash* over the 4 term presidency of FDR prevented a 3rd term for President Reagan, the Republican demigod.

Difficult to know if they're s a v v y enough, or principled enough to understand that whatever precedent they set to help Trump to re-election may in the (near?) future help a Democrat to obtain / retain / regain office.

It's a dangerous world.
Adversity has persisted since long before the trilobite, and has threatened Americans since long before the U.S. Founding.

Has there ever been a crisis in America that was a more substantial threat to the United States Constitution than the current Trump presidential campaign?

* United States Constitution ARTICLE #22: Ratified February 27, 1951
SECTION 1. No person shall be elected to the office of President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President during the remainder of such term.
SECTION 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.
 
Tuesday January 16, 2024 update:

Senior NBC-TV News Washington Correspondent Hallie Jackson reports the Republican candidate debate previously scheduled for New Hampshire Thursday is "off" (canceled) because Ambassador Haley said she would only debate Donald Trump, or Joe Biden moving forward.

Insidious.
 
Be afraid. Be very afraid ....

Every Awful Thing Trump Has Promised to Do in a Second Term​

The former president has pushed a slew of terrifying proposals, both publicly and privately, that he plans to unleash on America should he take down Biden
BY RYAN BORT

Donald Trump reportedly did not expect to win the presidency in 2016, which isn’t surprising considering how ill-prepared he and his team were to take control of the country. He appointed established conservatives to key positions before learning some had personal principles that extended beyond indulging the president’s ego. Trump wreaked havoc on the United States for four years, but the damage might have been even greater if he wasn’t battling career public servants who tried to check his impulses, or if he wasn’t such a political neophyte.

Trump will not be the dog that caught the car heading into his second term. He’ll be ready and waiting to take the wheel and hit the gas. The former president has now had nearly a decade to burnish his understanding of how Washington, D.C., works, and to assemble a political machine laser-focused on exploiting a federal government full of loopholes to give him the power to enact an authoritarian agenda that could spell disaster for the economy, the environment, human rights, and democracy.

Trump still needs to win the Republican nomination, but his romp in the Iowa caucuses on Monday confirmed that he is in total control of the primary and will almost certainly be squaring off with Joe Biden in an election to determine the fate of the nation.

Here’s what’s at stake:

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Shiftless2 said:
"Be afraid. Be very afraid ...." S2 #169
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Way ahead of you S2 ...
Shiftless2 said:
BY RYAN BORT
"The former president has now had nearly a decade to burnish his understanding of how Washington, D.C., works, and to assemble a political machine laser-focused on exploiting a federal government full of loopholes to give him the power to enact an authoritarian agenda that could spell disaster for the economy, the environment, human rights, and democracy." #169
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That's not Trump's style.
It's substantially an error to perceive Trump's threat as agenda-driven. CERTAINLY a 2nd Trump presidential term could be detrimental.

But to understand Trump we should remember Trump is substantially ego driven. And what satisfies Trump's ego is rather less result, than process.
 

Top Arizona Dem: Biden’s DOJ Is Failing to Protect Election Workers From ‘Domestic Terrorism’​

Biden’s Justice Department is too “worried about political blowback” to protect election workers, Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontes tells Rolling Stone
ADAM RAWNSLEY, ASAWIN SUEBSAENG

THE TOP ELECTION official in one of the most crucial battleground states for the 2024 presidential race has reached his limit.

In a wide-ranging interview with Rolling Stone, Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontes described his mounting “frustration” at President Joe Biden’s Department of Justice and Attorney General Merrick Garland for failing to respond to a wave of threats against election workers and officials with the urgency that he believes is necessary. The surge in death threats and intimidation efforts directed against election staff across the country, Fontes warns, could have disastrous consequences, not just for the expected 2024 election between Biden and Donald Trump, but for years to come.

“As cautious a person as Attorney General Merrick Garland is, I think he is being far too cautious here, when it comes to these investigations and prosecutions of threats against election administrators and election workers,” Fontes says. “I have a lot of respect for ...

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Shiftless2 said:
“As cautious a person as Attorney General Merrick Garland is, I think he is being far too cautious here, when it comes to these investigations and prosecutions of threats against election administrators and election workers,” Fontes says
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Adrian,
bitter personal experience has taught me that when government colludes with lethal adversaries compelling government bureaucrats to perform to their charter can be more difficult (and $expensive) than doing their job for them.

In your specific case you may wish to consider offering the law judges in that district a binary choice:
if government will not provide Secret Service style armed protection to these threatened election workers then either:
- make it possible & legal for such election workers to protect themselves, either by concealed carry on premises, or
- do without such election workers entirely.
 
A slim crack in the gloom, from Hume:
FOX News commenter Brit Hume reflects on the New Hampshire primary result, & Trump:

“If you think of him as an incumbent, this showing tonight’s weak, right?” he said. “He should be doing better.”
Hume then issued a warning to Republicans about the former president.
“But there’s weakness there with Trump, there’s no doubt about it, even if he wins easily and going away,” he said. “Look, he lost in 2020. His candidates lost in 2022. I mean, he has a lot of losses on his book.”

https://news.yahoo.com/fox-news-brit-hume-exposes-083414402.html
 

Trump’s plans if he returns to the White House include deportation raids, tariffs and mass firings​

A mass deportation operation. A new Muslim ban. Tariffs on all imported goods and “freedom cities” built on federal land.

Much of the 2024 presidential campaign has been dominated by the myriad investigations into former President Donald Trump and the subsequent charges against him. But with less than a year until Election Day, Trump is dominating the race for the Republican nomination and has already laid out a sweeping set of policy goals should he win a second term.

His ideas, and even the issues he focuses on most, are wildly different from President Joe Biden’s proposals. If implemented, Trump’s plans would represent a dramatic government overhaul arguably more consequential than that of his first term. His presidency, especially the early days, was marked by chaos, infighting and a wave of hastily written executive orders that were quickly overturned by the courts.

Some of his current ideas would probably end up in court or impeded by Congress. But Trump’s campaign and allied groups are assembling policy books with detailed plans.

A look at his agenda:

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Shiftless2 said:

"Trump’s plans if he returns ..." #175​

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"America First", a campaign slogan / promise exceedingly appealing to troglodytes.
What U.S. president has ever operated on basis of: America second?
"Tariffs"? Might seem a great idea to the clueless horde. Smoot-Hawley tarrifs widely recognized as worsening the affects of the Great Depression.

Trump has demonstrated he knows how to appeal to xenophobes. It's a national disgrace that such tawdry political intentions can appeal to an electoral plurality. This is a very special kind of nightmare.
 
World Trump opens up lead over Biden in rematch many Americans don't want January 25, 2024 · 8:29 AM GMT
Combination picture of Donald Trump and Joe Biden

Donald Trump leads Democratic President Joe Biden by six percentage points in a Reuters/Ipsos poll that showed Americans are unhappy about an election rematch that came into sharper focus this week.
 

Maine's top court dismisses an appeal of a judge's decision on Trump's ballot status​

Maine’s top court has declined to weigh in on whether former President Donald Trump can stay on the state's ballot, keeping intact a judge's decision that the U.S. Supreme Court must first rule on a similar case in Colorado.

Democratic Secretary of State Shenna Bellows concluded that Trump didn’t meet ballot qualifications under the insurrection clause in the U.S. Constitution, but a judge put that decision on hold pending the Supreme Court's decision on the similar case in Colorado.

In a unanimous decision on Wednesday, the Maine Supreme Judicial Court dismissed Bellows' appeal of the order requiring her to await the U.S. Supreme Court decision before withdrawing, modifying or upholding her decision to ...

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Shiftless2 said:

"Maine's top court dismisses an appeal of a judge's decision on Trump's ballot status" #178​

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The degree of your passion is demonstrated by the fact you posted #178. BUT !

What can we attribute this to?
- Judicial cowardice: concerned about appearances in context of judicial ethics? (How would it look if I get caught? How likely am I to get caught?)
- Judicial cowardice: deflecting accusation of political oppression (a risk of jailing Trump). Trump may be smart enough to include in his campaign speeches, the Putin / Navalny to Biden / Trump comparison, dismissing legal consequence for his own prior criminal misconduct as political oppression. Apparently millions have fallen for this.
- Judicial incompetence: lack the skills needed to achieve the objective?
- Judicial sloth: not doin' it. Too much paperwork ...
If not that, what?

Isn't Trump technically out on $bail? Is revoking bail from the president that perpetrated the crime enumerated in the Constitution's Article #14 Section #3 * "insurrection" plausibly partisan political oppression? The Democrats are incarcerating the wildly popular leader (Iowa, New Hampshire) of the opposing political party? Without legitimate justification?
- piffle -
How much longer will the judiciary allow this to continue? "Co-equal" branches of government. I get it. The guy's an insurrectionist. He's not eligible to hold the office he seeks (with fraudulent campaign material).
What harm, leaving Trump at large? Trump is delivering a severe blow to what without Trump might be a far more normal leap-year election cycle.

What am I missing? We're slow-speed careening toward ... uh oh !? Where's that darned missing puzzle piece?

* Art14, SECTION3 No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
 
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