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Election 2024
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The Constitution of the United States of America:
ARTICLE #14: Ratified July 9, 1868
SECTION 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.
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Our religion? Maybe he should read the Constitution?
One of the most alarming if lesser known indications of just how disinterested Trump is in facts:
the "PDB", the president's daily briefing has been a tradition for administrations of both parties. It includes some of the best, and most secret intelligence the U.S. government has.
BUT !!
Trump made it clear he wasn't much interested, so the Trump administration's PDB was dumbed way down by those that presented it.
Despite that, reports indicate Trump preferred FOX News to the PDB.
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What a shame .... said no-one
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Run by the bestest bigliest university in the whole universe. The one with the most words. The best words. The ....
meanwhile
The Donald:
Even if you are leading in all 77 States, not sure what good it would do if you're not on the ballot. it
www.cnn.com › 2023/10/30 › politicsTakeaways from Day 1 of the Trump disqualification trial
The 14th Amendment disqualification trial against Donald Trump began Monday in Colorado with a group of voters trying to use the Civil War-era amendment to remove the former president from the 2024 ...The Donald:
Even if you are leading in all 77 States, not sure what good it would do if you're not on the ballot. it
Trump Leads Biden in Nearly Every Battleground State, New Poll Finds / 9 hours ago
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Millions voted against Trump, voting for Hillary Clinton. A decade before that AlGore got many more votes than GWB. You were trying to make a point?
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Thing is, a lot of people simply didn't vote because they didn't like either candidate. And the press kept saying that Hillary was a shoe-in so they figured there was no point in voting for someone they didn't like. My position was they were better off voting for the "least worst" of the two options - but people didn't vote and the country (and world) got Trump.
TVM's point I gather.
It might seem a subtle dynamic, but it tends to have powerful horrendous long-term cumulative affect.
- When we vote positively, meaning endorsing the candidate's platform, the electorate focuses the nation's policy toward achieving that agenda. And voter partisan loyalty can over a span of many elections, advance that party's agenda cohesively, for the benefit of the nation, the People.
- When we vote against, the short-term expedient may be achieved (blocking a bad candidate from office), but the jurisdiction's policy progression becomes a fog, an incoherent and often dysfunctional jumble.
We know the problem.
We know the consequences.
Got a solution?
Seems to me Romney / Ryan looks like a fairly attractive ticket right now.
Or now that Jimmy Carter is single again ...
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"Prediction" implies the outcome is speculative.
Seems to me the 2024 Republican take-over attempt is already underway.
Sadly, these anti-Americans are clearly focused on Democrats, defeating Democrats, foiling Democrats. But do they have an agenda of their own? Prohibit abortion? Punish the poor? Then what?
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This from the guy that has been bragging that he was single handedly responsible for bringing down Roe v Wade ...
TESSA STUART, ASAWIN SUEBSAENG
THE MAN WHO essentially ended the federal right to abortion thinks that he can now run for president in 2024 as a “moderate” on the issue.
In recent weeks, according to two people familiar with the matter, Donald Trump has privately remarked that several anti-abortion leaders — people who spent the past year pushing him to commit to enacting a draconian national ban — now have no “leverage” to force him to do anything.
Despite their very public pressure campaign for that abortion ban, the former president insists that they will all fall in line and back him soon enough — with or without specific policy promises — in large part because they have nowhere else to turn. Trump has also mocked certain “disloyal” and “out of touch” leaders in the movement for tacitly supporting Florida governor and GOP presidential candidate Ron DeSantis, who has failed to loosen Trump’s grip on the party, one of the sources adds.
According to the two sources and other Trump allies and aides familiar with the situation, Trump and his team are looking past the primary towards a general-election fight against President Joe Biden — and they think they can somehow run the former president as a supposed “moderate” (as three sources put it) on abortion, at least compared to ....
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Trump, Who Destroyed Roe, Thinks He Can Run As an Abortion ‘Moderate’ in 2024
The former president is privately declaring victory over his party’s “extreme” anti-abortion crusaders, while publicly touting his record of stripping women’s rights awayTESSA STUART, ASAWIN SUEBSAENG
THE MAN WHO essentially ended the federal right to abortion thinks that he can now run for president in 2024 as a “moderate” on the issue.
In recent weeks, according to two people familiar with the matter, Donald Trump has privately remarked that several anti-abortion leaders — people who spent the past year pushing him to commit to enacting a draconian national ban — now have no “leverage” to force him to do anything.
Despite their very public pressure campaign for that abortion ban, the former president insists that they will all fall in line and back him soon enough — with or without specific policy promises — in large part because they have nowhere else to turn. Trump has also mocked certain “disloyal” and “out of touch” leaders in the movement for tacitly supporting Florida governor and GOP presidential candidate Ron DeSantis, who has failed to loosen Trump’s grip on the party, one of the sources adds.
According to the two sources and other Trump allies and aides familiar with the situation, Trump and his team are looking past the primary towards a general-election fight against President Joe Biden — and they think they can somehow run the former president as a supposed “moderate” (as three sources put it) on abortion, at least compared to ....
Trump, Who Destroyed Roe, Thinks He Can Run As an Abortion 'Moderate' in 2024
Donald Trump, who destroyed Roe, thinks that he can run for president in 2024 as a 'moderate' on the issue, sources tell Rolling Stone.
www.rollingstone.com
TS #116
Seems to me wielding power, exercising authority is more important to Trump than specific socio-political objectives, as long as Trump is the one that earns the blame.
The binary George Will addresses here is a distinction of leadership.
Seems to me wielding power, exercising authority is more important to Trump than specific socio-political objectives, as long as Trump is the one that earns the blame.
pan·der  (păndər)intr.v. pan·dered, pan·der·ing, pan·ders 1. To act as a go-between or liaison in sexual intrigues; function as a procurer. 2. To cater to the lower tastes and desires of others or exploit their weaknesses: "He refused to pander to nostalgia and escapism" (New York Times). [Middle English Pandare, Pandarus, from Old Italian Pandaro, from Latin Pandarus, from Greek Pandaros.] pander n. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition copyright ©2022 by HarperCollins Publishers. All rights reserved. |
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The GOP Is Pushing to Steal Students’ Votes
Instead, they're seeing increased turnout and lawsuits challenging new restrictionsBY TESSA STUART
LAST WEEK IN Wisconsin, the state Supreme Court heard arguments in a case that could invalidate the state’s comically, ludicrously, preposterously gerrymandered maps. If the court strikes those maps down, it will likely mean the end of the GOP’s decadeslong domination of the statehouse — and it will be because of what happened in Dane County in April.
Almost a quarter million voters turned out in Dane, home of University of Wisconsin, for a spring special election — several thousand more voters than turned out in Milwaukee, a county with almost double Dane’s population. A staggering 82 percent of Dane voters cast ballots to elevate liberal Judge Janet Protasiewicz to the state Supreme Court. Protasiewicz — whose vote could decide the gerrymandering case — ended up winning by 11 points.
Coming on the heels of the 2022 midterms — when Wisconsin led the nation in youth turnout in the country — the GOP judicial candidate’s April humiliation stunned the party. Former Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker put it plainly: “Young people are the issue.”
“We’ve got to turn it around if we’re going to win again,” Walker, now the president of a conservative youth organization called Young America’s Foundation, told Fox News. The power that young voters wield was not exactly a revelation to Walker; as governor 12 years earlier, he signed a law making it harder to use a student ID to vote, prompting universities in Wisconsin to offer IDs that met the state’s new standards for free.
Student engagement has only soared in Wisconsin in the years since, but that hasn’t stopped the GOP from pulling pages from the same playbook. Across the country this year, targeted efforts to ....
The GOP Is Pushing to Steal Students' Votes
Republican efforts to restrict student voting are being met with increased voter turnout and lawsuits challenging new voting restrictions.
www.rollingstone.com
It's not likely to have been an instantaneous change from responsible political conservatism to anti-American, anti-Constitution treachery.
But the transition is unmistakable. And the Republicans true to their oath of office seem few & far between.
So fellow patriots, back Democrats, or back off?
But the transition is unmistakable. And the Republicans true to their oath of office seem few & far between.
So fellow patriots, back Democrats, or back off?
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Completely unhinged as per usual
BY ALTHEA LEGASPI
Donald Trump was in Iowa on Saturday for two campaign stops, the first in Ankeny, followed by another in Cedar Rapids. And his obsession with the 2020 election continues to be a subject he seems to think is crucial as he campaigns to win the Republican presidential nomination, despite his position that he won being debunked time and again.
During his “Commit to Caucus” speech in Ankeny, Trump went over similar tropes he’s been touting throughout his campaign, calling media “fake news” and reiterating his false claim that the 2020 election was stolen when President Biden was rightfully declared president. “The one thing they don’t want to talk about is the [2020] election. They are guilty as hell, they cheated like hell,” Trump claimed, presumably of everyone who correctly recognized and validated the actual election results. “They know it, and you’ll never find out all the ways. But we don’t need all the ways because, you know, it was, I think 22,000 votes separated it, and we have ....
www.rollingstone.com
Trump Says if Jesus ‘Came Down’ He’d Win the Blue States in Unhinged Iowa Speech
The former president went in on the 2020 election during a swing through Iowa on Saturday, even claiming that he still wants to "redo" itBY ALTHEA LEGASPI
Donald Trump was in Iowa on Saturday for two campaign stops, the first in Ankeny, followed by another in Cedar Rapids. And his obsession with the 2020 election continues to be a subject he seems to think is crucial as he campaigns to win the Republican presidential nomination, despite his position that he won being debunked time and again.
During his “Commit to Caucus” speech in Ankeny, Trump went over similar tropes he’s been touting throughout his campaign, calling media “fake news” and reiterating his false claim that the 2020 election was stolen when President Biden was rightfully declared president. “The one thing they don’t want to talk about is the [2020] election. They are guilty as hell, they cheated like hell,” Trump claimed, presumably of everyone who correctly recognized and validated the actual election results. “They know it, and you’ll never find out all the ways. But we don’t need all the ways because, you know, it was, I think 22,000 votes separated it, and we have ....
Trump Says if Jesus 'Came Down' He'd Win the Blue States in Unhinged Iowa Speech
Donald Trump campaigned in Iowa on Saturday, in Ankeny and Cedar Rapids, where he focused on the false claim that the 2020 election was rigged.
www.rollingstone.com