"Black Lives Matter", but not to NYPD.
They fired over 40 rounds, over half of them missed. BUT !
They got him enough times to kill him anyway.
Cops behaving badly ...
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They fired over 40 rounds, over half of them missed. BUT !
They got him enough times to kill him anyway.
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Apparently it's illegal to have a medical condition that prevents you from obeying police orders
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If this isn't staged the obvious question is "who is filming it"
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If this isn't staged the obvious question is "who is filming it"
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Yes, the biggest threat to all humans has always been police, regardless them also being necessary.
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So it's policy even tho it's illegal?
If you can't put it in your report, you shouldn't do it at all. It should be illegal to intentionally obfuscate a police report, *not* official policy.
If you can't put it in your report, you shouldn't do it at all. It should be illegal to intentionally obfuscate a police report, *not* official policy.
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Nice to know the police don't have anything better to do (it is Florid tho)
An 11-year-old headed to a fishing pond on an electric dirt bike. Minutes later, he had a citation, was fingerprinted, and his bike was on a tow truck.
Cade Kirchner, a sixth grader in Oviedo, Florida, was stopped on Labor Day while riding toward Sweetwater Park with a fishing pole. His father, Chris Kirchner, says Cade was about 300 feet from home and riding on the shoulder, not in traffic.
Cade told News 6 he chose the shoulder because the sidewalk would mean going slower and possibly scaring pedestrians, while the road could upset drivers. His dad says the bike was capped at 20 mph.
Police and city officials say the vehicle was not legally an e-bike under Florida law. They described it as a 4,500-watt electric motorcycle with no pedals. In Florida, an electric bicycle must have fully operable pedals and a motor under 750 watts. Without pedals, officials say it falls under motorcycle rules, meaning registration, insurance, DOT requirements, and a licensed rider with a motorcycle endorsement.
Cade did not have a license. Officials say Florida law required fingerprints on the citation because he could not provide proper identification. Bodycam footage captured an officer telling him, “You have to show up, OK? Or they’re going to put out a warrant for you.”
The bike was towed, and Cade has a mandatory court appearance that may make him miss school. His father says he understands rules are needed, but believes the response went too far for a child riding to fish. Oviedo Mayor Megan Sladek called Cade a good kid, but said officers’ hands were tied by state definitions.
The city is also working on a new micro-mobility ordinance as communities everywhere try to catch up with the explosion of e-bikes, scooters, and electric dirt bikes.
Where should the line be between a warning, a citation, and towing the bike?
Sources: Clickorlando, Yahoo News, Fort Lauderdale
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An 11-year-old headed to a fishing pond on an electric dirt bike. Minutes later, he had a citation, was fingerprinted, and his bike was on a tow truck.
Cade Kirchner, a sixth grader in Oviedo, Florida, was stopped on Labor Day while riding toward Sweetwater Park with a fishing pole. His father, Chris Kirchner, says Cade was about 300 feet from home and riding on the shoulder, not in traffic.
Cade told News 6 he chose the shoulder because the sidewalk would mean going slower and possibly scaring pedestrians, while the road could upset drivers. His dad says the bike was capped at 20 mph.
Police and city officials say the vehicle was not legally an e-bike under Florida law. They described it as a 4,500-watt electric motorcycle with no pedals. In Florida, an electric bicycle must have fully operable pedals and a motor under 750 watts. Without pedals, officials say it falls under motorcycle rules, meaning registration, insurance, DOT requirements, and a licensed rider with a motorcycle endorsement.
Cade did not have a license. Officials say Florida law required fingerprints on the citation because he could not provide proper identification. Bodycam footage captured an officer telling him, “You have to show up, OK? Or they’re going to put out a warrant for you.”
The bike was towed, and Cade has a mandatory court appearance that may make him miss school. His father says he understands rules are needed, but believes the response went too far for a child riding to fish. Oviedo Mayor Megan Sladek called Cade a good kid, but said officers’ hands were tied by state definitions.
The city is also working on a new micro-mobility ordinance as communities everywhere try to catch up with the explosion of e-bikes, scooters, and electric dirt bikes.
Where should the line be between a warning, a citation, and towing the bike?
Sources: Clickorlando, Yahoo News, Fort Lauderdale
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The cops are wrong.
First of all, it is illegal to confiscate anything without a judicial warrant.
Second is that not having pedals is not the definition of a motorcycle, speed cap is.
There are lots of electric kiddie cars without pedals, that are perfectly legal for children.
The problem is this is anecdotal ridicule of a considerable public safety issue.
The cherry-picked example may on superficial consideration seem to have some merit.
Further along on the spectrum the problem may be more evident.
Video shows cars drag racing, drifting in Lakeview street takeover
There is a demand for action after a street takeover on Chicago's North Side. One video showed cars doing donuts as fireworks went off.
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Tenured COPs know they have some discretion, can allow violators off with a warning. BUT
they also know to do so renders them vulnerable to subsequent accusation of selective enforcement
in the next case which if / when it is far more serious.
I've long suspected motor vehicle traffic laws including speed limit laws criminalize more Americans than any other law.
I'm not aware of any indication there's significant prospect of reform.
These $punitive laws provide revenue for municipalities. The State invariably gets its share.
The result: governments have perverse incentive to preserve the status quo. Thus #406 & #407.
The problem is this is anecdotal ridicule of a considerable public safety issue.
The cherry-picked example may on superficial consideration seem to have some merit.
Further along on the spectrum the problem may be more evident.
Video shows cars drag racing, drifting in Lakeview street takeover
There is a demand for action after a street takeover on Chicago's North Side. One video showed cars doing donuts as fireworks went off.
Tenured COPs know they have some discretion, can allow violators off with a warning. BUT
they also know to do so renders them vulnerable to subsequent accusation of selective enforcement
in the next case which if / when it is far more serious.
I've long suspected motor vehicle traffic laws including speed limit laws criminalize more Americans than any other law.
I'm not aware of any indication there's significant prospect of reform.
These $punitive laws provide revenue for municipalities. The State invariably gets its share.
The result: governments have perverse incentive to preserve the status quo. Thus #406 & #407.
The source of all legal authority actually comes from those whose rights are defended by the enforcement of laws.
When there is no one harmed, like this ebike being limited to 20 mph, then any enforcement is inherently illegal.
The cop has to actually see abusive danger to others, not go by simply the fact it has no pedals.
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Lego said it first (and best)
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Charlotte police officers competed to see who could pull over most Black drivers, leading civil rights attorney says
‘A badge should NEVER be a license for discrimination,’ the attorney wrote on social media
S2,
Do you think establishing a college degree prerequisite for police in the U.S. would significantly reduce such misconduct?
Oddly enough, I think the solution is to disarm most police.
The reason being that they should never be using guns to solve anything anyway.
What they should do if there is a deadly threat, is retreat and call in backup.
The problem currently is that for some reason the police feel immune to laws, including murder.
Almost every time I see police, they are drawing their guns and illegally pointing them at unarmed people.
The reality is that police have no more legal authority to point a gun at someone, than anyone.
And yet if someone else drew a gun, the police would instantly shoot them.
That is totally illegal.
I think that if police were not trained and conditioned to point guns so much, they would be more creative and come up with much better solutions.
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1 year old Kohen Wiley was shot and killed in June after police fired into a car at a Walmart they claimed was driving towards them. The two women in the vehicle, one of which was Kohen’s mother, were accused of stealing a pack of diapers.
Kohen was shot while sitting on his mother’s lap.
To date no shoplifting charges have been filed for either women and no evidence has been presented showing that anything was stolen from the store.
Today after months of “investigating” the Mississippi attorney general stated that the police officer who killed Kohen was “justified”.
Justified. Let that sink in.
Justified.
There is no universe where killing a 1-year-old is justified. I am so angry I don’t even know where to begin.
I’m angry not only because of this grave injustice but because I know the so called christian pro-life right will do nothing about this.
There will be no mass outcry, no calls for legal action nor do I expect the Christian republican lawmakers in Mississippi to use their power to correct one of the most evil decisions in the state’s history.
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Horrendous. BUT !
Seems like half a story to me.
Are the murderer/s responsible already serving 25 - life?
If not, why not?
Sincere condolence to the bereaved. What a horror !