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66% BACK UKRAINE, JUST 3% SIDE WITH RUSSIA

2 days ago ... 66% BACK UKRAINE, JUST 3% SIDE WITH RUSSIA — IS TRUMP OUT OF STEP WITH AMERICA? A new national poll has delivered a striking message: ...
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edit to add: Trump & Musk are in the 3%
BUT !
Do not call the Trump administration elitist. Trump doesn't like it when his critics tell the truth about him.

 

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66% BACK UKRAINE, JUST 3% SIDE WITH RUSSIA

2 days ago ... 66% BACK UKRAINE, JUST 3% SIDE WITH RUSSIA — IS TRUMP OUT OF STEP WITH AMERICA? A new national poll has delivered a striking message: ...
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edit to add: Trump & Musk are in the 3%
BUT !
Do not call the Trump administration elitist. Trump doesn't like it when his critics tell the truth about him.

But that is because 100% of what the media propagandizes is that Russia is invading an independent sovereign country.
And that is not the case.

Until 1992, the Ukraine was always part of Russia.
The Ukraine in 2014 started deliberately violating the treaties it signed in 1992.
About 45% of the Ukraine wants to be reunited with Russia.

 

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"But that is because 100% of what the media propagandizes is that Russia is invading an independent sovereign country.
And that is not the case." R5 #422

Use of the term "the media" presents it / them as a monolith.
In a sense it is, to the degree that they are information conduits. BUT !
They are surely not ideological / partisan clones. FOX & CNN do not dance precisely the same tune. BUT !

Even if they did within the United States, it would not explain why other sources beyond U.S. borders provide similar reports.

We're back to the global conspiracy explanation again.
CERTAINLY a global conspiracy would explain this.
It is NOT the Ockham's Razor explanation. Quite the contrary. Any conspiracy theory is a red flag.
When the theory / explanation is the conspiracy is global, it doesn't merit life-support.

Celebrity chef and humanitarian José Andrés has served up a harsh reality check for Melania Trump over the Ukraine ceasefire she says she brokered with Vladimir Putin.
A localized ceasefire in the Russian-occupied Ukrainian city of Oleshky has taken effect after Melania announced to much fanfare from the White House that she had negotiated the truce single-handedly, prompting accusations that she was trying to steal credit from Pope Leo.
The 56-year-old first lady celebrated the prospect of humanitarian aid reaching the city on X Thursday, writing, "May this humanitarian mission end the suffering and begin a new chapter of durable peace between Russia and Ukraine." However, Russia launched a drone strike on a crowded rail platform in the Ukrainian city of Dnipro, killing at least 14 people, on the same day, according to Reuters.

Famed Humanitarian Gives Melania Brutal Reality Check About ‘Ceasefire’

Celebrity chef and humanitarian José Andrés has served up a harsh reality check for Melania Trump over the Ukraine ceasefire she says she brokered with Vladimir Putin. A localized ceasefire in the Rus...

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Use of the term "the media" presents it / them as a monolith.
In a sense it is, to the degree that they are information conduits. BUT !
They are surely not ideological / partisan clones. FOX & CNN do not dance precisely the same tune. BUT !

Even if they did within the United States, it would not explain why other sources beyond U.S. borders provide similar reports.

We're back to the global conspiracy explanation again.
CERTAINLY a global conspiracy would explain this.
It is NOT the Ockham's Razor explanation. Quite the contrary. Any conspiracy theory is a red flag.
When the theory / explanation is the conspiracy is global, it doesn't merit life-support.

Celebrity chef and humanitarian José Andrés has served up a harsh reality check for Melania Trump over the Ukraine ceasefire she says she brokered with Vladimir Putin.
A localized ceasefire in the Russian-occupied Ukrainian city of Oleshky has taken effect after Melania announced to much fanfare from the White House that she had negotiated the truce single-handedly, prompting accusations that she was trying to steal credit from Pope Leo.
The 56-year-old first lady celebrated the prospect of humanitarian aid reaching the city on X Thursday, writing, "May this humanitarian mission end the suffering and begin a new chapter of durable peace between Russia and Ukraine." However, Russia launched a drone strike on a crowded rail platform in the Ukrainian city of Dnipro, killing at least 14 people, on the same day, according to Reuters.

Famed Humanitarian Gives Melania Brutal Reality Check About ‘Ceasefire’

Celebrity chef and humanitarian José Andrés has served up a harsh reality check for Melania Trump over the Ukraine ceasefire she says she brokered with Vladimir Putin. A localized ceasefire in the Rus...

www.yahoo.com

I have never read a single historical source that did not characterize the Ukraine as the "heart" of Russia, and Kyiv as being the historic capital of Russia.
The Polish accent in the western half of the Ukraine did not exist until the failed Polish invasion attempt around 1700.

The translation of the name itself, "the Ukraine" means "contested lands".
Meaning that the descendants of the Polish invaders are the majority in the west, and the descendants of the ancient natives in the east are Russian.

Nor does it take a "conspiracy theory" to recognize the fact the Ukraine voted entirely to support the pro-Russian regime in 2012, so it is highly suspicious that the ethnic Polish generals conducted the Maidan Coup in 2014, totally wiping out the legal government by executions, imprisonment, or exile.
And in fact, it is also well documented that the ethnic Polish generals encouraged the Azov Battalion to massacre over 30k ethnic Russian natives of the Ukraine.
The only part we are not sure is the coincidence that Hunter Biden just happened to be in the Ukraine in 2013, and was paid millions to do what appears to be nothing.
But it does not take a wild conspiracy to realize the ethnic Polish Generals of the Ukraine would not have made this break with Moscow without motivation and military aid assurances from the US.

 

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Use of the term "the media" presents it / them as a monolith.
In a sense it is, to the degree that they are information conduits. BUT !
They are surely not ideological / partisan clones. FOX & CNN do not dance precisely the same tune. BUT !

Even if they did within the United States, it would not explain why other sources beyond U.S. borders provide similar reports.

We're back to the global conspiracy explanation again.
CERTAINLY a global conspiracy would explain this.
It is NOT the Ockham's Razor explanation. Quite the contrary. Any conspiracy theory is a red flag.
When the theory / explanation is the conspiracy is global, it doesn't merit life-support.

Celebrity chef and humanitarian José Andrés has served up a harsh reality check for Melania Trump over the Ukraine ceasefire she says she brokered with Vladimir Putin.
A localized ceasefire in the Russian-occupied Ukrainian city of Oleshky has taken effect after Melania announced to much fanfare from the White House that she had negotiated the truce single-handedly, prompting accusations that she was trying to steal credit from Pope Leo.
The 56-year-old first lady celebrated the prospect of humanitarian aid reaching the city on X Thursday, writing, "May this humanitarian mission end the suffering and begin a new chapter of durable peace between Russia and Ukraine." However, Russia launched a drone strike on a crowded rail platform in the Ukrainian city of Dnipro, killing at least 14 people, on the same day, according to Reuters.

Famed Humanitarian Gives Melania Brutal Reality Check About ‘Ceasefire’

Celebrity chef and humanitarian José Andrés has served up a harsh reality check for Melania Trump over the Ukraine ceasefire she says she brokered with Vladimir Putin. A localized ceasefire in the Rus...

www.yahoo.com

As far as the "global conspiracy" thing, it just like how all the media like about WMD in Iraq.
The point being that the wealthy elite want wars for profit, and the media is owned by them.
So the actual people deliberately start the wars, like Hunter Biden delivering bribed for the Maidan Coup, are not going to get covered.
What NATO wants is to look like the good guys, so that is what the press in NATO countries are going to push.
Has there ever been a war the press did not push, like Shock and Awe, Desert Storm, Vietnam, etc.?

 

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"I have never read a single historical source that did not characterize the Ukraine as the "heart" of Russia, and Kyiv as being the historic capital of Russia." R5 #424

I recommend it.

"As far as the "global conspiracy" thing, it just like how all the media like about WMD in Iraq." R5 #424

It's too many years ago for me to recall such detail from memory. I can quote a few.

"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt, that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised." U.S.President Bush (the younger) televised address to the U.S. March17th, 2003

- piffle -
This and many similar assertions made by President Bush (younger), VP Cheney, & Secretary Powell are outright lies.
During the Cuban Missile Crisis JFK provided evidence, photographs obtained from U2 spy plane overflights of Cuba showing Soviet missiles in Cuba.
Before the Iraq War, to trick the world into supporting GWB's casus belli scam Secretary Powell presented to the U.N. General Assembly "evidence" comprised of U.S. government drawings, artwork, of ostensible Iraqi mobile WMD labs.
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I don't recall credible news agencies with generations of journalistic integrity to protect, validating these fantastic delusions. iirc they reported, quoted the assertions made by the government officials.

"The point being that the wealthy elite want wars for profit, ..." R5 #424

That might explain the incentive for Airbus, BAE, Diehl, Rheinmetall, & Saab.

"... and the media is owned by them." R5 #424

And that can create at least apparent motive for incestuous journalistic inaccuracy.
It would not explain BBC, Der Spiegel, Reuters, The Guardian, & Wiener Zeitung keeping such secret for generations, jeopardizing their own brand.

In this case it does not corroborate global conspiracy. Ockham's Razor
Throughout history there certainly have been conspiracies.
But they are generally limited in time & or scope. The ostensible conspiracy you allege here is too failure-prone to survive this long. It's simply not practical, not plausible.

 

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The Telegraph
World

Melania’s ceasefire is cover for major offensive, say Ukrainian soldiers​

For months, residents of Oleshky in southern Ukraine endured hunger, relentless Russian attacks and drones that hunted them down.
But beyond the Kremlin's propaganda, several Ukrainian soldiers report seeing drone footage showing extensive military preparations.
They believe Russian forces are preparing a major offensive against Kherson during the ceasefire, which they believe is very probable to begin immediately after the truce expires on Nov 1. One soldier reported seeing Russian Kamaz lorries carrying combat units moving non-stop.
"This is absolute bloody madness! The industrial area of Kakhovka (east of Oleshky) is being covered with anti-drone netting," the soldier told Bild, which, like The Telegraph, belongs to the Axel Springer Group.

Melania’s ceasefire is cover for major offensive, say Ukrainian soldiers

For months, residents of Oleshky in southern Ukraine endured hunger, relentless Russian attacks and drones that hunted them down.

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It's obvious generally the West sides with Ukraine, against Russia.
It's also obvious President Trump prefers Putin to Zelenskyy.
Are Mr. & Mrs. Trump colluding with Putin, against Zelenskyy?

Time will tell.

 

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It's also obvious President Trump prefers Putin to Zelenskyy.

 

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