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[Rigby5]

I don't object to the contest.
Without any opposing political force, the U.S. would be at risk at present or future of fraudsters performing such "update" for inappropriate (fraudulent) reason. I oppose that.

That does NOT mean I find today's status quo fully satisfactory. BUT !
It is acknowledgement contending with the contest is better than contending without it.

But I would want qualified people to be conducting the "contest", like doctors, judges, etc., and not DMV bureaucrats or even politicians.
For example, since we are actually talking about database values, what happens when there simply is a glitch producing an inaccurate database value?
I would not want politicians demanding that a glitch be declared unrepairable.

 

[sear]

"But I would want qualified people to be conducting the "contest"" R5 #1,441

I can't find a plausible definition for the word you've scare-quoted here: "contest".

The contest referred to in #1,440 is the political decision about whether / how citizens update their gender marker.

"But I would want qualified people to be conducting the "contest", like doctors, judges, etc., and not DMV bureaucrats or even politicians." R5 #1,441

YOU R5 participate in the contest mentioned in #1,440.



We're on page #72 of a topic that's been active for years. Please note the ratio of "Views" to "Replies". 44 : 1

You / I / we have a "right" to ascend the soapbox at the village square, and advocate persuasively to our neighbors / tax payers / voters. BUT !
They're not there.
This charming 18th century literal soapbox anachronism is obsolete, not viable.

They're at the shopping mall, or performing trousers optional e-tail at home.

We have the right, but not the power to reach our neighbors for robust public debate, 18th century style.

Internet to the rescue ?!

A little.
CitizenVoice.us is at least a cyber-soapbox we can now ascend (trousers optional) to inquire / inform / persuade. R5 #1,441 is but one recent example of PRECISELY that.
Though there may not be another human in view, we can address more of them than can be legally crammed into the village square.

YOU R5 are party to this very "contest".

Perhaps what you mean by "contest" is the actual performance of the government genital exam.
I don't consider that a contest.
To me the contest is deciding on policy basis whether or not the examination is to be conducted at all.
We should note, updating gender marker need not necessarily include any such government exam.

"I would not want politicians demanding that a glitch be declared unrepairable." R5 #1,441

You've hit close to home here.
In my home State of NY the minimum age for driver's license was 16. When I applied the DMV listed my height as 5' 11".
Soon thereafter I was 6' tall. BUT !
I was never able to get the DMV to update.
Now in my 70's, I'm back down to 5'11". - booyea -

 

[Shiftless2]

Interesting - my son's driver's license says that he's five foot nine and a half

But the DMV had no facility for measuring his height - I'd driven him there and was waiting so I piped up and said that my drivers license gave my height as five foot nine and a half and we were pretty much the same height. The examiner looked at the two of us and agreed so that's what his license shows.

Thing is, when I got my license decades earlier the same thing had happened - they had no way to measure my height so my father had volunteered his height and my license now read the same as his.

Thing is, my father had obtained his license before the war so I don't know how the height on his license was determined - or maybe it was the height the Air Force had measured when he enlisted. No idea.