Why the Chinese Internet Is Cheering Russia’s Invasion

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Why the Chinese Internet Is Cheering Russia’s Invasion​

As the world overwhelmingly condemns the assault on Ukraine, online opinion in China is mostly pro-Russia, pro-war and pro-Putin.


A bombed Ukrainian home in south Kyiv. Many Chinese social media users have praised President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and accepted his justification for invading Ukraine.


A bombed Ukrainian home in south Kyiv. Many Chinese social media users have praised President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and accepted his justification for invading Ukraine.Credit...Lynsey Addario for The New York Times
Li Yuan
By Li Yuan
Published Feb. 27, 2022Updated Feb. 28, 2022
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If President Vladimir V. Putin is looking for international support and approval for his invasion of Ukraine, he can turn to the Chinese internet.
Its users have called him “Putin the Great,” “the best legacy of the former Soviet Union” and “the greatest strategist of this century.” They have chastised Russians who protested against the war, saying they had been brainwashed by the United States.
Mr. Putin’s speech on Thursday, which essentially portrayed the conflict as one waged against the West, won loud cheers on Chinese social media. Many people said they were moved to tears. “If I were Russian, Putin would be my faith, my light,” wrote @jinyujiyiliangxiaokou, a user of the Twitter-like platform Weibo.
As the world overwhelmingly condemns Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the Chinese internet, for the most part, is pro-Russia, pro-war and pro-Putin.

Mr. Putin’s portrayal of Russia as a victim of the West’s political, ideological and military aggression has resonated deeply with many on social media. It dovetails with China’s narrative that the United States and its allies are afraid of China’s rise and the alternative world order it could create.
For its part, the Chinese government, Russia’s most powerful partner, has been more circumspect. Officials have declined to call Russia’s invasion an invasion, nor have they condemned it. But they have not endorsed it, either.

Under Xi Jinping, its top leader, China has taken a more confrontational stance on foreign policy in recent years. Its diplomats, the state media’s journalists and some of the government’s most influential advisers are far more hawkish than they used to be.
Together, they have helped to shape a generation of online warriors who view the world as a zero-sum game between China and the West, especially the United States.
A translation of Mr. Putin’s speech on Thursday by a nationalistic news site went viral, to say the least. The Weibo hashtag #putin10000wordsspeechfulltext got 1.1 billion views within 24 hours.

“This is an exemplary speech of war mobilization,” said one Weibo user, @apjam.
“Why was I moved to tears by the speech?” wrote @ASsicangyueliang. “Because this is also how they’ve been treating China.”

Mr. Putin with Xi Jinping, China’s top leader, in Moscow in 2019. They said this month that their countries’ friendship had “no limits.”

Mr. Putin with Xi Jinping, China’s top leader, in Moscow in 2019. They said this month that their countries’ friendship had “no limits.”Credit...Sputnik/Reuters
Mostly young, nationalistic online users like these, known as “little pinks” in China, have taken their cue from the so-called “wolf warrior” diplomats who seem to relish verbal battle with journalists and their Western counterparts.
The day before Russia’s invasion, for instance, a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman said in a daily press briefing that the United States was the “culprit” behind the tensions over Ukraine.
“When the U.S. drove five waves of NATO expansion eastward all the way to Russia’s doorstep and deployed advanced offensive strategic weapons in breach of its assurances to Russia, did it ever think about the consequences of pushing a big country to the wall?” asked the spokeswoman, Hua Chunying.
The next day, as Ms. Hua was peppered with questions about whether China considered Russia’s “special military operation” an invasion, she turned the briefing into a critique of the United States. “You may go ask the U.S.: they started the fire and fanned the flames,” she said. “How are they going to put out the fire now?”
She bristled at the U.S. State Department’s comment that China should respect state sovereignty and territorial integrity, a longstanding tenet of Chinese foreign policy.

 
Perhaps popular Chinese support for the Russian invasion of Ukraine ought not surprise us.
But is it the metaphorical "tip of the iceberg"?

Red China and autocratic Russia could each benefit their own national agenda with various alliances, in trade, military, and other areas of cooperation.

Though here to fore they may have taken different forms, Russia and China both seem to have megalomaniacal aspirations in one form or another.

Might the West be careening toward a new Cold War? Capitalist prosperity against ... ?
 
Looks grim to me Rampage.

To understand the breadth of this ongoing disaster I puzzle over what mental state would lead Putin to believe this invasion of Ukraine is a good idea.

Vlad! It's NOT ! Go home.
 

Xi snubbed Putin after their summit, calling a meeting of Central Asian countries as part of an audacious power play​

Russian President Vladimir Putin with China's leader, Xi Jinping, in front of a golden door.

Russian President Vladimir Putin with China's President Xi Jinping at the Kremlin in Moscow on Tuesday.
  • China's leader, Xi Jinping, has made a power move timed with his visit to Russia.
  • He set up a new meeting of Central Asian countries this week, muscling in on Russia's backyard.
  • The Kremlin has long seen former-Soviet republics as part of its sphere of influence.
The move came as Xi was visiting Putin in Moscow as part of a three-day-summit that concluded Wednesday, in which the nations pledged to deepen and extend their cooperation — and Xi signaled that Russia would have continued Chinese backing in its invasion of Ukraine.
Analysts say that China has secured significant leverage over Russia in return for its diplomatic and economic support, and that in calling the meeting of Central Asian nations it is seeking to exploit that advantage.
 
I didn't anticipate that one R #4.
It's a glaring reason for any such nation to not resort to military conquest. For by that standard, any nation that attempts to gain territory that way risks losing territory that way.
I don't usually think of Xi as a champion of justice. In this case, he could have done worse.

Not yet clear to me:
Why Xi didn't temporarily collude with Putin while gobbling up vulnerable territories, and then go head to head afterward. I like it better the way it's reported in #4. Thanks R #4. Enjoy the weekend.
 
Putin may intend it less as a snub to his Chinese ally, and more as a show of strength, independence to NATO. If Putin plays poker for money he probably bluffs a lot and loses more often than he bluffs.
 
Every few months I find a story that describes Putin's precarious position in Russia. A major factor, Putin seems to have believed Ukraine would be as quick and bloodless a conquest as Crimea.
Now in year #2 of Putin's war the Russian front-line seems to be in shambles, with reports of Russian military command varying from incompetent to non-existent. Add to that inadequate supplies, rampant drunkenness, and the simple environmental adversities of the season (even Russian tanks can get stuck in the mud) and it looks like a meat-grinder for Russian troops.
"Russia continues to suffer great losses in the war against Ukraine. Around 610 Russian troops were eliminated in Ukraine in the past 24 hours alone [April 2023].
The total Russian losses in the full-scale invasion of Ukraine exceeded 172,000 soldiers, according to estimates by the Ukrainian military’s General Staff.

https://news.yahoo.com/kremlin-mouthpiece-suggests-russians-putin-103300944.html
For context, that's about three times what the U.S. lost in Vietnam.
 

Ukraine says it is finding more Chinese components in Russian weapons​

Fri, April 14, 2023 at 8:47 AM EDT / By Matthias Williams and John O'Donnell
LONDON/FRANKFURT, April 14 (Reuters) - Ukrainian forces are finding a growing number of components from China in Russian weapons used in Ukraine, a senior adviser in President Volodymyr Zelenskiy's office told Reuters, as Western supplies are squeezed by sanctions.


The "components" seem to include electronic microcircuits. The infrastructure involved for such production has been concentrated in Asia, so this may be a little less surprising, if none the less alarming.
 
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