MD's are off the hook, as compliance would require violation of doctor / patient privilege.
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I am not sure, because HIPAA can allow parental access to all health records of children, depending on the state?
Not clear to me how the "new law" changes any of that.
If parents had access before, don't they still?
The text in #1,519 alleges action required of doctors.
I'm not an expert on this, BUT ! no statute can override / overrule attorney / client privilege. And if not that, why this?
That may not render this gubernatorial witch-hunt any less disgraceful.
But if it has indeed acquired the status of "law" I suspect that status will be short-lived.
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Not so sure about that. Transphobic parents and trans kids is not a good match.
Without this match, marinas near law firms would anchor smaller yachts.
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BREAKING: Trump administration CAVES and will return Pride flag to Stonewall National Monument in major victory for LGBTQ rights.
The Trump administration took the flag down in the dark. Now, they'll have to put it back in broad daylight — permanently and officially — on the federal flagpole by court order.
The Trump administration has agreed to settle a lawsuit and permanently restore the rainbow Pride flag at the Stonewall National Monument in Manhattan — the birthplace of the modern LGBTQ rights movement — after a federal court made clear the government had illegally targeted LGBTQ people by removing it in February.
The administration snuck the flag down quietly on the morning of February 9th, while employees at the Stonewall Inn arrived for work. No announcement. No press conference. Just a flagpole stripped of its rainbow colors at the most symbolically significant LGBTQ site in American history.
What happened next was exactly what always happens when this administration tries to erase people: they showed up. Hundreds rallied at Stonewall. Elected officials defiantly raised a Pride flag on the ...
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There has never been a time when LGBTQ+ people were not in classrooms, they were always there, just often unseen. When education leaves out queer identities, it does more than skip history, it erases real people and real experiences. Visibility in learning spaces matters, because for many students, hearing those stories for the first time can feel like finally being recognized
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Trump is about to drop a “nuclear weapon” on trans youth health care
How a report led by a right-wing pundit laid the groundwork for upending gender-affirming treatment
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How a report led by a right-wing pundit laid the groundwork for upending gender-affirming treatment
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And going to the gym is a sign of deteriorating health. Going for walks is a sign of deteriorating leg muscles. And so forth.
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As a trans teacher, these are the comments I get from parents of trans youth. Words filled with trust, fear, hope, and the quiet courage it takes to support their kids in a world that doesn’t always understand them. I carry these stories with care, and they remind me why visibility, advocacy, and compassion in education matter so deeply.
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As a trans teacher, these are the comments I get from parents of trans youth. Words filled with trust, fear, hope, and the quiet courage it takes to support their kids in a world that doesn’t always understand them. I carry these stories with care, and they remind me why visibility, advocacy, and compassion in education matter so deeply.
As a trans teacher, these are the comments I get from parents of trans youth. Words filled with trust, fear, hope, and the quiet courage it takes to support their kids in a world that doesn’t always understand them. I carry these stories with care, a
As a trans teacher, these are the comments I get from parents of trans youth. Words filled with trust, fear, hope, and the quiet courage it takes to support their kids in a world that doesn’t always...
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Robert De Niro reaffirmed his commitment to his daughter Airyn De Niro after she came out as trans, emphasizing that his love remains unchanged. His statement underscores a broader truth about parenting, children need support, not conditions. By responding publicly with affirmation, he offered a visible example of acceptance. Sometimes the most powerful statements are the simplest ones.
You would think that Albuquerque would not be very open to trans community being so influenced by Catholicism, but surprisingly the community is very open.
I suppose it is the native influence?
If one wants to tell, I have been told to look for the adam's apple or the width of the hips.
Not that it seems to really matter that much.
I've read but have not corroborated:
immigrants to the U.S. that become fluent in U.S. English before puberty may not have the same accent their parents that immigrated on the same date.
Why?
The explanation was, at puberty, elements of the human vocal apparatus Calcify, solidifying the foreign accent.
Perhaps whether transition occurred before puberty, or after can influence this.
Good point, in that both male adam's apple and female widening of the hips happen after puberty.
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I remember a son of one of my parents' friends. They had moved from Germany when he was about 14 so well after puberty started. His parents had definite accents but the son didn't. And he'd never spoken any English before leaving Germany. And he had no accent whatsoever.
And I do remember talking to one one lady in the pub and she asked us to guess where she was from - we're all sitting there trying to figure out what sort of regional American or Canadian accent she had. We were all wrong - she was Polish and had learned English, from scratch, when she was in her twenties.
Admittedly they're both exceptional but it does suggest that puberty doesn't play the role that some suggest.
That does it!
That's the last time I take what I read in the Penny Saver as reliable science !
Joking aside,
some have accents, others don't.
If it's not the puberty thing it's something else.
Not much help here: https://rossier.usc.edu/news-insights/news/there-really-critical-period-accent-acquisition
This one counter-proposes brain plasticity: https://ijllnet.thebrpi.org/journals/Vol_11_2024/1.pdf
YouTubers can try:
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BREAKING
Her name in court documents is Jane Doe. She's a transgender girl who played varsity girls' softball for her Minnesota high school. She pitched. Her team won. And ever since, a conservative nonprofit called Female Athletes United has been trying to get her thrown off every girls' team in the state.
On Wednesday, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit told them no.
The three-judge panel upheld a lower court's decision not to block Minnesota's trans-inclusive sports policy — a bylaw adopted by the Minnesota State High School League back in 2016 that allows students to compete "consistent with their gender identity or expression." That policy has been under siege for over a year, with the Trump administration threatening to pull the state's federal education funding, the Department of Justice filing suit, and anti-trans groups flooding the courts.
None of it worked.
Writing for the panel, Judge Raymond Gruender found that the group's lawsuit was built on the wrong legal theory. Title IX, the federal law banning sex discrimination in education, does not allow private lawsuits over disparate-impact claims — meaning you can't sue a school just because a policy affects different groups differently. You have to prove intentional discrimination. Female Athletes United couldn't do that, because Minnesota's policy treats every student by the same standard: you play on the team that matches your gender identity. That's neutral on its face. Their complaint was about outcomes, not intent.
But the more significant part of the ruling was what the court said about Trump's executive orders.
Female Athletes United had argued that Minnesota's refusal to follow Trump administration guidance — the executive orders declaring trans girls are "males" and threatening funding cuts for schools that let them compete — proved the state was deliberately ignoring federal law. The Eighth Circuit rejected that argument directly and in writing.
"Executive guidance and agency findings, in and of themselves, do not reflect settled law," the panel wrote. Such actions "cannot independently establish a likelihood that certain policies or conduct violate federal rights."
In plain English: Trump signing a piece of paper at the White House does not make it the law of the land. An executive order is a direction to the executive branch. It is not a statute passed by Congress. And a state that declines to follow it is not breaking the law.
That is a sentence the Trump administration does not want in print, because it applies far beyond Minnesota softball. The administration has used executive orders to go after trans students, trans medical care, trans military service, and trans identity documentation across the board. Each time, the threat of funding cuts or federal enforcement has been the stick. Wednesday's ruling says the stick isn't as big as advertised.
Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison had said the same thing back in February 2025, issuing a formal legal opinion that the executive order "does not have the force of law." Pamela Bondi's DOJ fired back with a letter rejecting his analysis. Wednesday, a federal appeals court agreed with Ellison.
The Supreme Court is still expected to rule by July on two separate cases — out of West Virginia and Idaho — that could decide whether state bans on trans athletes are constitutional. That ruling could override everything Wednesday's decision preserved. But for now, Jane Doe gets to play.
And the federal court record says, in writing, that a president's executive order is not a law.
That is worth saying out loud. NOT LAW!
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Certainly, unquestionably, the law matters. AND !
When the law is wrong I favor setting the law right. BUT !
There's more to humanity than a courtroom.
The conspicuous absence in this 77 page thread: how do the non-trans competitors feel about it?