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Not everywhere is going backwards. (For the record, WA is Western Australia)
New gender recognition laws have come into effect in WA today, abolishing the cruel and archaic Gender Reassignment Board and recognising non-binary people for the first time.
For years, trans and gender diverse people born in WA have been required to undergo gender affirming treatments and seek approval from the Board to update their birth certificates.
WA was also the only state in Australia to have such a body.
While the laws are not perfect, it will now be easier and simpler for trans and gender diverse people to update their birth certificates within a more respectful pathway to gender recognition.
This significant win wouldn’t have been possible without the hard work of advocates on the ground in WA.
Their tireless advocacy has helped bring WA in line with the rest of Australia and made a real difference to people’s lives.
We will continue to advocate to strengthen these laws further, but today we celebrate another milestone for trans and gender diverse people in WA.
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odpstrSenoM6myM8 489tlP82 f75t693amg9mt 15f:590f7396 3ugal1a ·New gender recognition laws have come into effect in WA today, abolishing the cruel and archaic Gender Reassignment Board and recognising non-binary people for the first time.
For years, trans and gender diverse people born in WA have been required to undergo gender affirming treatments and seek approval from the Board to update their birth certificates.
WA was also the only state in Australia to have such a body.
While the laws are not perfect, it will now be easier and simpler for trans and gender diverse people to update their birth certificates within a more respectful pathway to gender recognition.
This significant win wouldn’t have been possible without the hard work of advocates on the ground in WA.
Their tireless advocacy has helped bring WA in line with the rest of Australia and made a real difference to people’s lives.
We will continue to advocate to strengthen these laws further, but today we celebrate another milestone for trans and gender diverse people in WA.
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Truth
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Gotta start the month off right
And never forget
And never forget
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Just asking ....
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To put it another way ....
Men In Black VII: Impractical Kitchen Utensils ?
In a pizzeria when the order is for a "747", it's for a large plane.
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Navy will rename the USNS Harvey Milk, named for LGBTQ rights pioneer
The renaming of the vessel honoring Milk, a Navy veteran who served during the Korean War, comes as Pride Month begins.Shiftless2
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In fairness to the police, it's up to the AG to decide whether or not to press charges.
And while normally I'd say call the FBI and let them take over the hate crime question given who now controls the FBI that's not necessarily a good idea.
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From the Standards of Care v6 of 2000.
"Sex Reassignment is Effective and Medically Indicated in Severe GID. In persons diagnosed with transsexualism or profound GID, sex reassignment surgery, along with hormone therapy and real life experience, is a treatment that has proven to be effective. Such a therapeutic regimen, when prescribed or recommended by qualified practitioners, is medically indicated and medically necessary. Sex reassignment is not "experimental," "investigational," "elective," "cosmetic," or optional in any meaningful sense. It constitutes very effective and appropriate treatment for transsexualism or profound GID."
GID is now called severe Gender Dysphoria rather than Gender Identity Disorder. That makes it clear that it's not a Disorder per se, though it may cause that without treatment.
"Sex Reassignment is Effective and Medically Indicated in Severe GID. In persons diagnosed with transsexualism or profound GID, sex reassignment surgery, along with hormone therapy and real life experience, is a treatment that has proven to be effective. Such a therapeutic regimen, when prescribed or recommended by qualified practitioners, is medically indicated and medically necessary. Sex reassignment is not "experimental," "investigational," "elective," "cosmetic," or optional in any meaningful sense. It constitutes very effective and appropriate treatment for transsexualism or profound GID."
GID is now called severe Gender Dysphoria rather than Gender Identity Disorder. That makes it clear that it's not a Disorder per se, though it may cause that without treatment.
The Roe v. Wade ruling provided a broader suite of women's reproductive healthcare options.
The Republican's usurpation of these reproductive rights renders it in some jurisdictions illegal to either obtain, or to provide such OB/GYN healthcare.
Bottom line: In some locations within the U.S. abortion is illegal.
If that's what the patient wants, splendid. Who $pays? What does it $cost?
If it's life-saving treatment, wherein the patient would otherwise die decades sooner, prematurely, from the fatal complications of the "disease" we might understand.
Are "the People" obliged to $pay for this? Why? And where is the end to that slippery slope? If a flat-chested woman feels she won't be gender complete without being able to fill a 38 FF brassiere should the People have to pay for that too?
If a man with a teenie weenie won't feel whole until he out-measures a stallion, we're supposed to $pay for that too?
I'm sympathetic (to some degree) with those dissatisfied with their god-given attributes. But why must my $taxes pay for it? If they want it, there should be no law preventing them from $buying it, provided they don't then switch sides to join a sports team. BUT !
can: open
worms, everywhere
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BTW, it's not a "disease" - the American Psychiatric Association doesn't even classify it at a disorder. Roughly 40% of trans youth attempt suicide (vs 4% for all teens). However, if those youths receive parental acceptance and support, aren't on the receiving end of transphobic discrimination and bullying, and have ID that corresponds to the gender they present as, the suicide rate drops to more normal levels.
On a related note, roughly 40% of homeless youths are members of the LGBT community. Some were thrown out and others left on their own because the situation "at home" was intolerable.
If they pay for erectile disfunction treatments (Viagra etc) as well as fertility treatments why should this be any different?
Why should your taxes pay for services that you may never use? Things like hospitals in remote sparsely populated sections of the state. Or treatments for rare diseases - the ones where there might be, at most, two or three victims in the entire country.
Why not? And don't forget that there are FtM athletes out there as well. And on the topic of trans athletes if that is an issue, why isn't the podium completely dominated by trans athletes?
For the record, new research shows that trans athletes may be at a disadvantage
And then there's this ....
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Precisely my intended point.
& thus all the weaker the argument that the People should $pay.
It may belong in the category "elective procedure", if to qualify for that category the treated condition is not organically life-threatening.
I'm not merely conservative politically. I'm also conservative financially, economically. I live debt-free, no mortgage, no car loan, etc.
Part of my reservation about this, "treatment" as it exists in 2025 was not available a century ago, or in the many centuries before.
Yet I doubt all those affected were suicide casualties.
I consider gender differentiating characteristics overlapping bell-curves.
Example: upper body strength: I believe while men are generally regarded superior by this parameter, the most muscular woman is probably stronger than the least muscular man. Overlapping bell-curves.
Similar story for deep voice, etc.
May be worth contextualizing today's modern surgical / biochemical options with the lives lived by similar mismatches in previous centuries.
That may seem dismissive, if not contemptuous, hypocritical. I suspect not. I'm a bald guy. I'm aware there are treatment options for me.
I've never seriously considered any of them, despite being aware of the potential. I've seen my friends gasp seeing me in a Halloween wig, a different look.
I could have gone with the horseshoe look. Not my style. I just embraced it as a fashion, and cut it short enough to act like stubble, so in a stout breeze my hat says on like velcro.
Because reproduction (>2.2 ZPG) is essential to the nation, falling birth rates a problem in the U.S. & beyond. If you need a chuckle, check out what Trump has in mind to spur U.S. population growth.
I must confess my ignorance here.
I'm guessing:
a) it has not been ever thus.
b) If not, why not? Perhaps because the tradition was to categorize a newborn by apparent genital configuration at birth. Right?
c) So now that this standard is no longer considered reliable, now that society has updated, there's a need for standards to also update, to keep pace. Right?
Should we acknowledge the irony? The trans cause the problem, and then complain about the consequences?
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In the day it was common practice to correct newborns with "ambiguous" genitalia generally without even telling the parent.
And then there are Guevedoces - individuals who appear female at birth but who, at puberty, develop male sex organs
The extraordinary case of the Guevedoces
Children in a remote village in the Dominican Republic have an extremely unusual condition.
www.bbc.com
Female & male, common.
I wouldn't go all a tizzy if it's more complicated. The complication is public accommodation: which porcelain appliance to use. And language, "he" & "she", with Johnnie come lately, the singular "they", where binary gender designation is an obstacle.
It's not that I don't care. It's that I'm not sure I have a vote in the matter.
"They" 'll sort it out, or not.
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Now they're investigating after declaring that this wasn't a hate crime??
