Uvalde - the followup

[sear]

"The problem of gun control is that it violates the basic concepts of a republic.
It says to trust government, which is a bad idea." R5 #360

Absolutism appeals to some because it is simple.

In practice it's not sensible to have zero gun laws.
Allowing nursery school students to carry loaded guns would be imprudent.

It wouldn't be practical to allow loaded guns in our law courts.
But as soon as we acknowledge the line must be drawn, it becomes a quibble about where the line is to be drawn.

 

[Rigby5]

Absolutism appeals to some because it is simple.

In practice it's not sensible to have zero gun laws.
Allowing nursery school students to carry loaded guns would be imprudent.

It wouldn't be practical to allow loaded guns in our law courts.
But as soon as we acknowledge the line must be drawn, it becomes a quibble about where the line is to be drawn.

But you can't arrest nursery school students, so you have to trust parents to take care of things like that.
I have seen where they arrest parents for not keeping guns out of the hands of children, and that usually is even worse.
Even if the parents were at fault, imprisoning the parents destroys the children even more, ensuring vastly greater problems later.

 

[sear]

"But you can't arrest nursery school students, so you have to trust parents to take care of things like that." R5 #362

Without statutory guidelines parents could allow their children to attend nursery school with firearms,
and if challenged simply deflect: "it's not illegal."

SO !
We make it illegal, and then require parents to adhere to the law.

"I have seen where they arrest parents for not keeping guns out of the hands of children, and that usually is even worse." R5 #362

It might have prevented a massacre at Sandy Hook.

"Even if the parents were at fault, imprisoning the parents destroys the children even more, ensuring vastly greater problems later." R5 #352

Anecdotally so perhaps.
What's the alternative? A lawless frontier? Might makes right? Kill or be killed?

 

[Rigby5]

Without statutory guidelines parents could allow their children to attend nursery school with firearms,
and if challenged simply deflect: "it's not illegal."

SO !
We make it illegal, and then require parents to adhere to the law.


It might have prevented a massacre at Sandy Hook.


Anecdotally so perhaps.
What's the alternative? A lawless frontier? Might makes right? Kill or be killed?

Yes, but that is the wrong thing to do.
School regulations are the way to deal with things like that and not laws.
Someone intent on crime is not going to follow minor laws anyway.
Lanza at Sandy Hook was 20 and his firearms were legal.
It was a suicide, so therefore was caused by over a decade of some sort of pressure that should not have existed.
I do not believe the school could have been totally innocent.