The war in Iran (or whose war is it anyways?)

Trump’s Iran War to Spike US Grocery Costs, Threaten Global Food Crisis​

One expert warned of a “direct hit on consumer prices” if the Iran war persists.​

Brad Reed / Mar 18, 2026
President Donald Trump’s unprovoked and unconstitutional war against Iran has already been raising gas prices for US drivers, and could soon raise the cost of food both in the US and all over the world.

NBC News reported on Tuesday that the price of diesel fuel has now soared above $5 per gallon for the first time since December 2022. If the price of diesel remains high, the report explained, it will raise the price of all goods delivered by trucks throughout the US, including food.
Trump’s Unprovoked War on Iran Triggers 10% Spike in Global Oil Prices

Paul Dietrich, chief investment strategist at Wedbush Securities, told NBC News that diesel prices will become a “direct hit on consumer prices” if they remain elevated, as “groceries get more expensive, delivery costs rise, and household budgets are tightened.”
“Diesel is what moves the real economy,” explained Dietrich. “It hauls the food, the packages, the building supplies, and the inventory sitting on store shelves.”
The cost of diesel isn’t the only factor that could spike food prices, as the Iran war has also put a strain on fertilizer that farmers need to grow crops.

Al Jazeera reported on Wednesday that there is growing concern that the rising price of fertilizer caused by the closure of the Strait of Hormuz could lead to a global food crisis.
As Al Jazeera explained, almost half of the global supply of urea, the most commonly used fertilizer, is shipped from Middle Eastern nations through the Strait of Hormuz.
With the strait closed by Iran in response to US and Israeli attacks, Al Jazeera wrote, “urea export prices from the Middle East have surged by about 40%, rising from just less than $500 to a little more than $700 per metric ton as of last Friday.”
www.commondreams.org

Trump's Iran War to Spike US Grocery Costs, Threaten Global Food Crisis | Common Dreams

President Trump's war on Iran is driving up diesel and fertilizer prices, which could soon lead to higher food costs worldwide.
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bold emphasis sear's: "global food crisis" means higher food prices, potential supply shortages in the U.S., and likely expanding shortages / famine abroad. Does Trump care?
 
Cross posted from Quotable Quotes thread

"I have decided that we will not have public hearings because I do not believe the administration's decision-makers should be subject to public questioning by senators." ~ Sen. Jim Risch, Foreign Relations Committee Chair, asked when there will be public hearings about the war
 
Shiftless2 said:
"I have decided that we will not have public hearings because I do not believe the administration's decision-makers should be subject to public questioning by senators." ~ Sen. Jim Risch, Foreign Relations Committee Chair, asked when there will be public hearings about the war
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a) ! :eek: !
b) I'm not sure if this is cataclysmic, or merely catastrophic.

There's not a lot of ambiguity here. Trump criticizes the regime in Iran for killing protesters, while Trump's own regime is bumping off citizens in Minnesota.
The white house East wing has been reduced to rubble, and carted away.
The Trump administration has chosen to wage War on Iran again, the second time in his second administration, it's been less than a month, and has already elicited the word "quagmire" in the press.

Trump has burnished his own reputation for over-promising, and under-delivering. And his second term isn't half over. - o m g -
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"Beam me up Scotty!" Rep. James Traficant [D-OH]
 
Shiftless2 said:
Cross posted from Quotable Quotes thread

"I have decided that we will not have public hearings because I do not believe the administration's decision-makers should be subject to public questioning by senators." ~ Sen. Jim Risch, Foreign Relations Committee Chair, asked when there will be public hearings about the war
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Executive decision makers are supposed to be following Congressional orders entirely.
 
Rigby5 said:
"Executive decision makers are supposed to be following Congressional orders entirely." R5 #66
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Yes. That's separation of powers? Presidents don't make laws, legislatures do. Right? And it's the president's Constitutional obligation under Art.2 Sect.3 to "... take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed". That applies to both Constitutional law, & statute. How many times has Trump already failed this obligation of his office?

Trump’s mixed messages on Iran: ‘Winding down’ the war and easing sanctions but adding more troops​

By NICHOLAS RICCARD Updated 7:09 PM GMT-5, March 21, 2026

President Donald Trump frequently contradicts himself, sometimes in the same speech, social media post or even sentence. Within the space of a few hours Friday, he sent a torrent of mixed signals about the Iran war that raise more questions about the direction of the conflict and his administration’s strategy.

During this time, Trump said he was considering winding down the war, his administration confirmed it was sending more troops to the Middle East and, in an effort to lessen the economic impact on global energy markets, the United States lifted sanctions on some Iranian oil for the first time in decades — relieving some of the pressure that Washington traditionally has used as leverage.
The confusing combination of actions deepens a sense among Trump’s critics that there is no clear, long-term strategy for the war the U.S. and Israel launched against Iran. Now in its fourth week, the war remains on an unpredictable path and a credible endgame is unclear even as the global economy is being roiled.
Just 24 hours after saying the U.S. was thinking of walking away from the conflict, Trump issued another contradictory statement Saturday evening, threatening to escalate the conflict by targeting Iran’s power plants unless the country lets oil shipments pass through the Persian Gulf.

“The Hormuz Strait will have to be guarded and policed, as necessary, by other Nations who use it — The United States does not!” Trump wrote. But, in another contradiction, he said the U.S. would help if asked, “but it shouldn’t be necessary once Iran’s threat is eradicated.”

apnews.com

Trump's mixed messages on Iran: 'Winding down' the war and easing sanctions but adding more troops

President Donald Trump is sending mixed messages about the U.S. war with Iran, and that's raising even more questions about the direction of the conflict and his administration's strategy.
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"I'm an extremely stable genius." President of the United States of America Donald J. Trump 19/05/23​
 

Trump issues 48-hour Hormuz Strait ultimatum, threatens Iran power plants​

Tehran responds to Trump’s threat by saying all US energy infrastructure in the region will be targeted if Iran is attacked.

Published On 22 Mar 202622 Mar 2026
United States President Donald Trump has threatened to attack Iran’s power plants if freedom of navigation is not fully restored at the Strait of Hormuz within 48 hours, a dramatic escalation as the US-Israeli war on Iran continues for a fourth week.

“If Iran doesn’t FULLY OPEN, WITHOUT THREAT, the Strait of Hormuz, within 48 HOURS from this exact point in time, the United States of America will hit and obliterate their various POWER PLANTS, STARTING WITH THE BIGGEST ONE FIRST,” Trump, who is in his Florida home for the weekend, wrote on Truth Social at 23:44 GMT.

He did not specify which plant he was referring to as the biggest.

Following Trump’s threat, the Iranian army said it would target all energy infrastructure belonging to the US in the region if Iran’s fuel and energy infrastructure were attacked.

Following Trump’s threat, the Iranian army said it would target all energy infrastructure belonging to the US in the region if Iran’s fuel and energy infrastructure were attacked.


The statement on Saturday came as Trump faces increasing pressure to secure the vital waterway that Iran has promised to keep closed to “enemy ships”, leading to soaring oil prices and plunging stock markets.

www.aljazeera.com

Trump issues 48-hour Hormuz Strait ultimatum, threatens Iran power plants

Iran responds to Trump's threat by saying all US energy infrastructure in the region will be targeted if it is attacked.
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Rigby5 said:
(y) #68
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There are multiple comparably implausible explanations for this.
If you'll pardon the Bushism, Trump continues to "misunderestimate" Iran.

"Nobody knows the system better than me." "Which is why I alone can fix it." presidential candidate Trump 16/07/21 from the campaign podium

Mr. President:
you've made numerous amateurish tactical blunders here, political blunders that competent politicians learn how to deal with as they work their way up from school board, to State assembly, into congress, and then, with luck, eventually the exec.

Failing to follow the examples of Presidents Bush preparing our allies to assist U.S. in War, the elder President Bush in Kuwait, the younger in Iraq, each spent months coalition building.

But you President Trump insulted, disparaged our NATO allies, excluded them from war planning, and then act imposed upon when they want no part of the war you prevented them from preparing to win.

"Pottery Barn".

It's political quicksand Mr. Trump. The more you writhe, the deeper and more inextricably entrapped you become in your own quagmires: military, economic, community.
During the Biden administration they were our allies. Are they still?

Is Greenland? Is Denmark?
Canada?
Panama?
Europe's economies are not benefiting from your dire strait of Hormuz.

How much more damage do you expect to be able to do?
 
sear said:
There are multiple comparably implausible explanations for this.
If you'll pardon the Bushism, Trump continues to "misunderestimate" Iran.

"Nobody knows the system better than me." "Which is why I alone can fix it." presidential candidate Trump 16/07/21 from the campaign podium

Mr. President:
you've made numerous amateurish tactical blunders here, political blunders that competent politicians learn how to deal with as they work their way up from school board, to State assembly, into congress, and then, with luck, eventually the exec.

Failing to follow the examples of Presidents Bush preparing our allies to assist U.S. in War, the elder President Bush in Kuwait, the younger in Iraq, each spent months coalition building.

But you President Trump insulted, disparaged our NATO allies, excluded them from war planning, and then act imposed upon when they want no part of the war you prevented them from preparing to win.

"Pottery Barn".

It's political quicksand Mr. Trump. The more you writhe, the deeper and more inextricably entrapped you become in your own quagmires: military, economic, community.
During the Biden administration they were our allies. Are they still?

Is Greenland? Is Denmark?
Canada?
Panama?
Europe's economies are not benefiting from your dire strait of Hormuz.

How much more damage do you expect to be able to do?
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It just seems so hypocritical to me, that we are the only ones guilty of actually using nuclear weapons on civilians, we are the ones attacking innocent countries like Iraq, and then we claim that other countries we have abused, like Iran, can't have nuclear deterrents?
 
And this

How the U.S. Military Lost a War to Iran (In a Simulation, That Is)​


nationalinterest.org

How the U.S. Military Lost a War to Iran (In a Simulation, That Is)

In 2002, the Pentagon convened a fictitious wargame to test a future enemy equipped with advanced technology and tactics. Dubbed the Millennium Challenge, the congressionally-mandated exercise pitted the “blue” U.S. team up against the “red” Iran-like Middle Eastern team, set in a timeframe five...
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