The Second Term of Donald J. Trump as President of the United States of America

Shiftless2 said:
" Neither of them [Bill or Hil] are stupid (or naive)." S2 #2,461
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In the now familiar comparison of Trump to Hitler, some may overlook the fact that Hitler's domestic political opposition diminished as Hitler consolidated his own political power.
Is that not what Trump has done to congress? Speaker Johnson not Trump's lap dog?
Trump may get some criticism here or there from within the GOP, but there is no obvious law-&-order anti-Trump political blowback within the GOP powerful enough to set the U.S. and the world right again. And Greenland girds for War.

- fine -

But even if the Clinton's intend to take this to the mat, can we deny the David & Goliath similarity?
The Clinton's were a formidable political influence when they held public office.

What have they got now? Government pensions and some Secret Service protection?

I wish them well.
I do not expect them to succeed alone.
 
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The Pentagon has ordered 1,500 active-duty soldiers to prepare for a possible deployment to Minnesota amid growing unrest. Not overseas. Not a hurricane response. Not a foreign war. Minneapolis. Right now. In response to protests sparked by the fatal shooting of Renee Nicole Good by an ICE agent.

This could be an inflection point.

The administration insists this is “just preparation,” that no final decision has been made. But preparation is the point. Infantry units from the 11th Airborne Division — trained for combat, not crowd control — have been put on standby while the president publicly threatens to invoke the Insurrection Act, a relic of 19th-century law designed to crush rebellions, now being dusted off to intimidate civilians demanding accountability.

Let’s be clear about what’s happening. Federal immigration enforcement expands aggressively into communities. A civilian is killed. Protests erupt. And instead of de-escalation, transparency, or justice, the response is escalation — CBP guarding federal buildings, ICE agents framed as “patriots,” protesters labeled “insurrectionists,” and the military quietly moved into position.

This is not about public safety. This is about power.

Every autocratic turn in modern history follows the same script: redefine dissent as disorder, elevate police and security forces as the last line of “law,” and normalize the presence of soldiers in civilian life. The language hardens. The laws stretch. The precedent sets.

Once the Insurrection Act is invoked, the line between civilian governance and military force doesn’t just blur — it collapses.

What’s being tested in Minneapolis isn’t just crowd control. It’s whether Americans will accept armed troops as a response to protest, whether we’ll shrug as the military is positioned against its own people, whether fear will override memory.

And once this door opens, it rarely closes quietly.

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Shiftless2 said:
"The Pentagon has ordered 1,500 active-duty soldiers to prepare for a possible deployment to Minnesota ..." #2,464
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S2,
I was puzzled about Trump's expressed concern about Iranian protestors, and the ayatollah's reaction.
Trump doesn't seem to care much if at all for U.S. citizens. Not clear to me why Trump would care about Iranian protestors.

Perhaps S2 your #2,464 offers insight:
is Trump's interest in Iran out of Trump's own concern about how Trump should / can handle similar anti-government protests? Trump: an OJT authoritarian.
 
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Shiftless2 said:
"I've been watching but no idea why Trump would be interested in Iranians." S2 #2,466
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Your #2,466 draws us toward the inescapable conclusion that Trump's interest is not in Iranian justice, but in U.S. Trump administration injustice / political suppression.

and

Shiftless2 said:
Meanwhile back at the ranch ....

"Ukrainian intelligence services deliberately sent false strategic information to U.S. intelligence, later observing that the material was passed on to Russia, and subsequently used by Russian forces." VS #2,468
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:eek:! :mad:
This corroborates information that's been filtering in for weeks.
Our Western European allies have limited their intelligence flow to the U.S. to prevent Trump administration leaks from benefiting Russia.

Similar story in the Caribbean.

This information disclosed in #2,468 is monstrous.
And MAGAs deny Trump is a Russian intelligence asset?!

Here to fore Benedict Arnold is the name synonymous with U.S. traitor. How much more traitorous must President Trump become to eclipse Arnold?

Or has Trump already done so?

Trust is easier to lose than it is to regain.
 
sear said:
Constitution of the United States of America
B.O.R. ARTICLE #4: Ratified December 15, 1791
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated,
and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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I believe that also means ICE can not try to open car doors.
 
sear said:

JONATHAN TURLEY: Clintons dare House to hold them in criminal contempt. Will it work?​

The Clintons have left themselves no viable legal defense
By Jonathan Turley Fox News Updated January 17, 2026
Chairman James Comer and the House Oversight Committee are investigating the Jeffrey Epstein controversy and have subpoenaed the Clintons to testify. Neither has been accused of criminal conduct.
The Clintons failed to appear and, instead, issued a chest-thumping letter of defiance, declaring:
"Every person has to decide when they have seen or had enough and are ready to fight for this country, its principles and its people, no matter the consequences. For us, now is that time."
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JONATHAN TURLEY: Clintons dare House to hold them in criminal contempt. Will it work?

Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton adopt the same defiance strategy that led to Steven Bannon's contempt conviction, refusing House depositions and potentially facing criminal referral.
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Seems odd that two lawyers would perpetrate this apparent blunder.
If they wanted to avoid testifying could they not have appeared as ordered, and then avoided with "I plead the 5th", or "I don't remember"?

It seems unlikely they don't know that.
Perhaps they hope to turn this around on their antagonists.
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I am not sure, but I think the whole Epstein thing may be illegal.
First of all it is over 20 years ago, and second is that it is not based on legal principles as much as sexual slander.
It would still cost thousand for people to fly to DC, and it would still be a negative photo op.
Since the actual law in the Virgin Islands has the age of consent being 13, it seems to me even arresting Epstein and Maxwell is the only actual crime?

The US has a very Puritanical and extremist religion history, that Roman Polanski showed everyone the US is much more extreme than the rest of the world.
 
sear said:
In the now familiar comparison of Trump to Hitler, some may overlook the fact that Hitler's domestic political opposition diminished as Hitler consolidated his own political power.
Is that not what Trump has done to congress? Speaker Johnson not Trump's lap dog?
Trump may get some criticism here or there from within the GOP, but there is no obvious law-&-order anti-Trump political blowback within the GOP powerful enough to set the U.S. and the world right again. And Greenland girds for War.

- fine -

But even if the Clinton's intend to take this to the mat, can we deny the David & Goliath similarity?
The Clinton's were a formidable political influence when they held public office.

What have they got now? Government pensions and some Secret Service protection?

I wish them well.
I do not expect them to succeed alone.
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While judicial subpoenas have merit, it is because they issued by an impartial judiciary, and because they are over the defense of rights of others.
A congressional subpoena has none of these merits since there is no constitutional basis, and they are declared by political hacks for selfish reasons.
There can not possibly be any point in congressional investigation of Epstein at this point, except that Maxwell should be let out of prison.
 
Shiftless2 said:
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The Pentagon has ordered 1,500 active-duty soldiers to prepare for a possible deployment to Minnesota amid growing unrest. Not overseas. Not a hurricane response. Not a foreign war. Minneapolis. Right now. In response to protests sparked by the fatal shooting of Renee Nicole Good by an ICE agent.

This could be an inflection point.

The administration insists this is “just preparation,” that no final decision has been made. But preparation is the point. Infantry units from the 11th Airborne Division — trained for combat, not crowd control — have been put on standby while the president publicly threatens to invoke the Insurrection Act, a relic of 19th-century law designed to crush rebellions, now being dusted off to intimidate civilians demanding accountability.

Let’s be clear about what’s happening. Federal immigration enforcement expands aggressively into communities. A civilian is killed. Protests erupt. And instead of de-escalation, transparency, or justice, the response is escalation — CBP guarding federal buildings, ICE agents framed as “patriots,” protesters labeled “insurrectionists,” and the military quietly moved into position.

This is not about public safety. This is about power.

Every autocratic turn in modern history follows the same script: redefine dissent as disorder, elevate police and security forces as the last line of “law,” and normalize the presence of soldiers in civilian life. The language hardens. The laws stretch. The precedent sets.

Once the Insurrection Act is invoked, the line between civilian governance and military force doesn’t just blur — it collapses.

What’s being tested in Minneapolis isn’t just crowd control. It’s whether Americans will accept armed troops as a response to protest, whether we’ll shrug as the military is positioned against its own people, whether fear will override memory.

And once this door opens, it rarely closes quietly.

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What I do not understand is why Congress and the courts are allowing this abuse of troops, in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act?
 
Rigby5 said:
What I do not understand is why Congress and the courts are allowing this abuse of troops, in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act? R5 #2,473
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Who is it you imagine to be abusing the troops?
The ones being pepper-sprayed?
Or the ostensibly abused troops' chain of command?

Please bear in mind -legal predicate-.
However badly Trump's brownshirts may seem to be mistreated, they could be back home munching doughnuts and swilling java if Trump were not intent on punishing "blue" States.
 
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