President-Elect Trump: the introduction to round two

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Candidate Trump understood the electoral advantage of xenophobic appeal to MAGA voters, the us against them perspective on "foreigners" within our nation of immigrants.
It may indeed seem desirable to voters that don't follow such proposition through to logical conclusion.

Donald Trump Confirms Plan to Declare a National Emergency to Carry Out Mass Deportations​

The president-elect also confirmed he plans to use "military assets" to enforce his mass deportation plans

By Toria Sheffield / Published on November 18, 2024
Trump previously said he would begin mass deportations “on day one” of his presidency during a rally in Madison Square Garden in the days leading up to the election.
“I will launch the largest deportation program in American history to get the criminals out," he told the crowd, per CBS News. "

Candidate Trump also solicited votes based on shopping-cart issues, the Consumer Price Index (CPI).

Actions have consequences.
Even if unlikely, were Trump to make substantial progress on either of these two campaign commitments, such progress could adversely affect prospect of success with the other.

US farm groups want Trump to spare their workers from deportation​

By Leah Douglas and Ted Hesson / November 25, 20246:02 AM GMT-5
  • Farm industry warns Trump's deportation plans could upend food supply
  • Nearly half of US farm workers lack legal status
  • Farmers seek expanded legal pathways for agricultural laborers
WASHINGTON, Nov 25 (Reuters) - U.S. farm industry groups want President-elect Donald Trump to spare their sector from his promise of mass deportations, which could upend a food supply chain heavily dependent on immigrants in the United States illegally.
So far Trump officials have not committed to any exemptions, according to interviews with farm and worker groups and Trump's incoming "border czar" Tom Homan.
Nearly half of the nation's approximately 2 million farm workers lack legal status, according to the departments of Labor and Agriculture, as well as many dairy and meatpacking workers.


So how about it xenophobic Trump voters?
Which is the more important priority? Mass deportations? Or more $affordable food?

The good news:
Trump has a well established record of making extraordinary claims, and failing to fulfill them.
But even if Trump falls as far short on mass deportations in his second term as Trump did on building his "great, great wall" in his first term
it could still adversely affect consumer prices.

And as detrimental as fulfilling these domestic threats may be, Trump also campaigned advocating large tariffs with such trade partners as China.
It is not impossible for such trade partner to absorb some or all of the $impact of such tariff. But generally the historic trend is for profit percentages to remain stable, and for consumers to pay the cost of such tariffs.

Thus, months before the beginning of Trump's second term next year, unignorable contradictions / consequences already present.
"We know that protectionism makes the world poorer." George Will
note:
What terrible crime wave is President-Elect Trump advocating saving us from?
They’re eating the dogs. They’re eating the cats. They’re eating the pets of the people that live there” [in Springfield, Ohio] presidential candidate Trump debating VP Harris 24/09/10
 
FOXnews counterpoint:

Migrant murders put American communities on edge as over 1.4 million avoid deportation with shady tactics​

Laken Riley, Lizbeth Medina, Jocelyn Nungaray and Rachel Morin are among Americans allegedly killed by illegal immigrants​

By Christina Coulter Fox News / Published November 25, 2024 4:00am EST

Laken Riley murder, other crimes are the result of Biden’s open border crisis, Alina Habba says


Americans murdered at the hands of illegal immigrants have left communities throughout the United States on edge as more than 1.4 million people have avoided deportation orders amid the country's border crisis.
The fact that 1.4 million illegal immigrants still remain in the United States after getting formal deportation orders from federal judges shows just how "unserious" the Biden administration is about the country's migrant crisis, an immigration scholar told Fox News Digital.
Of that 1.4 million, only about 13,000 are behind bars. As of July 2023, an estimated 11.7 million illegal immigrants resided in the U.S., according to the Center of Migration Studies of New York.
The issue has concerned residents throughout the U.S., as Americans such as Laken Riley, Lizbeth Medina, Jocelyn Nungaray and Rachel Morin have been killed over the past two years, all allegedly at the hands of illegal immigrants.


1.4 MILLION ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS IN US HAVE BEEN ORDERED DEPORTED, BUT HAVE YET TO BE REMOVED: OFFICIAL


Trump to the rescue?
 
The use of the military to deport immigrants would appear to be a clear violation of the Posse Commitatus Act. Military personnel can not conduct civilian law enforcement activities.

 
S2 #3:
You're precisely right about Posse Commitatus ("PC", savor the irony), BUT !!
The counter-argument is illegal aliens infiltrating U.S. sovereign territory is a U.S. national (federal) issue. I'm not endorsing that argument. But considering Trump's track-record, ... who knows.
"The use of the military to deport immigrants ..." S2 #3
... which Trump made a campaign commitment to do ...

"... would appear to be a clear violation of the Posse Commitatus Act. Military personnel can not conduct civilian law enforcement activities." S2 #3

BUT !!

Washington — The federal judge overseeing the 2020 election case against former President Donald Trump agreed to dismiss the charges following a request from special counsel Jack Smith, bringing to a close the historic and unprecedented prosecution of the nation's 45th and 47th president.
U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan granted Smith's request just hours after he said in a filing that he is seeking to close Trump's case because Justice Department policy forbids the prosecution of a sitting president.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jack-smith-dismiss-charges-trump-d-c-election-case/
"No one is above the law"
except D.J.

btw:
"dismiss the charges"?
Why not suspend until President Vance is inaugurated 4 years from now?
 

The growing list of sexual misconduct allegations against Trump’s picks

Several of the president-elect’s top picks to lead his government have been accused of sexual misconduct. Matt Gaetz withdrew from consideration.

A number of President-elect Donald Trump’s Cabinet-level nominees have been accused of sexual harassment and assault, and one has faced allegations of child sex trafficking. Credible allegations of impropriety — let alone allegations of misconduct or assault — have often been cause for withdrawal or disqualification. But Trump — who has faced dozens of accusations of sexual misconduct dating back to the 1970s — has been known to surround himself with men who have also faced similar allegations.

The president-elect typically denies the legitimacy of accusations related to sexual misconduct and defends the men in his orbit.

In 2018, in response to ....

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As the saying goes - you can tell a lot about somebody by who they surround themselves with.
 
The growing list of sexual misconduct allegations against Trump’s picks #7
We know what.
Do we know why?

There are multiple possible explanations, "possible" even if seemingly implausible.

a) Trump's selections, deliberately excluding the conventional bipartisan morals filter. So as not to exclude a superior candidate?
If not that, might Trump have an ulterior motive?

b) By surrounding himself with sexual misconductors Trump may hope to mitigate the scorn his own confessed misadventures have earned him.

c) A deliberate finger in the eye to bipartisan norms, conventions? Is sexual impropriety Trump's standard for verifying ability to "drain the swamp"?
 
Reading the lines, alarming.
"Yes, we are going to come after the people in the media" #9
Reading between the lines, more alarming still.
If they were proud of what they plan to do, why would they not also welcome publicity to obtain the public appreciation they would then have earned?
Looks like they're pleading guilty over a month before the starting gun.

So much for the First Amendment
"The remedy for bad speech is good speech." U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis

Oh L.B.!
You are soooo last Tuesday !

Why bother having a Department of Injustice if the one above the law can't abuse the manifold powers of the State for his own amusement?
 
Politics· The Independent

Trump hires Pete Navarro, who just served a four-month prison stint for contempt of Congress, as senior counselor

Navarro served four months in a federal prison for refusing to give evidence before the House January 6 committee

Andrew Feinberg / Wed, December 4, 2024 at 11:42 AM EST


President-elect Donald Trump on Wednesday said he is bringing a convicted criminal who helped plan his futile attempt to overturn the 2020 election to the White House as a senior member of his administration working on trade issues.
In a statement first posted to Truth Social, Trump said he was bringing on Peter Navarro, the former head of the National Trade Council during his first term, as a “Senior Counselor for Trade and Manufacturing.”
“The Senior Counselor position leverages Peter’s broad range of White House experience, while harnessing his extensive Policy analytic and Media skills. His mission will be to help successfully advance and communicate the Trump Manufacturing, Tariff, and Trade Agendas,” Trump said.
Navarro, an economist who holds a PhD from Harvard University, formerly taught economics and public policy at the University of California, Irvine, and was mainly known for his eccentric views on trade policy before Trump brought him into the White House during his first term starting in 2017.


A scandal-plagued reputation might self-sabotage / terminate the further political ambitions of a more upright citizen.
But Trump's reputation so prominently features one failure, one lie, one scandal after another, such headline as included here hardly gains notice. Convicted felon Trump hires a federal convict: “Senior Counselor for Trade and Manufacturing.”

Do you suppose Trump will include in his cabinet a token traditional establishment conservative?
 

Trump’s transition running into early problems​

Burgess Everett / Wed, December 4, 2024 at 5:55 PM EST
Donald Trump’s second transition was supposed to be different than the first, designed to be “orderly” by advisers who have more eager congressional Republican allies this time around.
Yet the consistent chaos and confusion that defined Trump’s first administration are already descending on Washington.
Trump may lose his second major Cabinet nominee in a matter of weeks, as Army veteran and former Fox News host Pete Hegseth faces draining allegations about his personal life and workplace record. That’s on top of a lower-ranked nominee’s sudden withdrawal, Republican clashes over how to structure their legislative agenda next year — and the awkward spillover of private Mar-a-Lago drama via an internal investigation into Trump confidant Boris Epshteyn.

Any reason for skepticism is assuaged by the certain knowledge that in Trump's capable managerial style, all these trivial perturbations are being identified, removed before inauguration day,
so that the 4 year Trump administration will be accurately characterized as placid, competent, conservative governance and unprecedented peace and prosperity. [/cemetery satire]
 
Re #12

Trump aide under investigation: Who is Boris Epshteyn?

Boris Epshteyn, a long-time adviser to Donald Trump and member of his transition team, has been accused of seeking payments from people to promote them for roles in the incoming administration.

He has called the allegations, which were the subject of an internal investigation by Trump's legal team, "false and defamatory".

The Trump campaign said in a statement it is moving on from the issue after reviewing consulting agreements. The investigation and accusations were first reported by conservative outlet Just the News.

Epshteyn is a highly visible member of ....

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Trump backs adviser accused of pay-to-play scheme as ouster attempt backfires

President-elect defends Boris Epshteyn, who was accused of asking potential nominees to pay fees, amid infighting

An attempt to force the ouster of Boris Epshteyn, a top adviser to Donald Trump, over accusations that he asked potential administration nominees to pay monthly consulting fees in exchange for lobbying for them appeared to have failed as the president-elect came to his defense.

Trump told aides at the Mar-a-Lago club, from where he is running the presidential transition, that he was irritated by what he viewed as an attempt to undercut “my people”, according to ....

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And plenty more

 
"Boris Epshteyn, a long-time adviser to Donald Trump and member of his transition team, has been accused of seeking payments from people to promote them for roles in the incoming administration." #13
Unethical, in my opinion. Is it illegal? More to the point, if only that were the worst we could expect from the Trump administration.
 
The first issue of Rolling Stone was published November 1967. In its early years editorial bias might have seemed a more likely explanation than objective government fault.

Rolling Stone
Donald Trump gave his first network interview since the election and spread falsehoods about immigrants, the Affordable Care Act and — of course — the 2020 election.
In an interview that aired on Sunday’s Meet the Press, Trump gave his usual bluster and ignored some important facts.

13,099 Murderers

Trump claimed that the U.S. had “13,099 murderers released into our country over the last three years” who were undocumented immigrants. That claim is false.
Trump may have pulled that number from a letter the deputy director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) sent to Rep. Tony Gonzales that listed “the number of noncitizens on ICE’s docket convicted or charged with a crime.”
On the letter, ICE lists 13,099 non-citizens who had been convicted or charged with homicide who are living in the U.S. and who are on ICE’s “non-detained docket,” but
those numbers are from not just the Biden administration but all administrations over the last 40 years, including Trump’s. Plus, not all of those people listed are walking free. The list includes those who are currently in jail or prison but who are not being held in immigration detention.

Something has changed.
Has Rolling Stone tilted more mainstream? More conservative? Would Rolling Stone have been this accusatory toward LBJ?
Or has Trump inflicted such a seismic shift that it only makes Rolling Stone seem to have changed, if using Trump as context?

Kudos to Trump? For imposing conservatism on media? Or ... ?
 

N.Y. attorney general refuses to drop $486 million judgment against Trump​

A lawyer for the president-elect had urged Letitia James' office to "completely dismiss" its civil fraud case against Trump and his company.

Dec. 10, 2024, 1:10 PM GMT-5
By Adam Reiss, Laura Jarrett and Dareh Gregorian
New York Attorney General Letitia James has rejected President-elect Donald Trump's request to walk away from her office's $486 million civil fraud judgment against him.

"This Office will not stipulate to vacate the final judgment" against Trump and his company "or otherwise seek to dismiss the action," a lawyer for James' office said in a letter to Trump attorney John Sauer.
Sauer had asked James' office to voluntarily dismiss the case last month, saying that it could interfere with Trump's duties as president and that she should drop it to promote "unity."

"The trial is over, final judgment has been rendered, and defendants’ appeal to the First Department has been fully submitted and argued. Mr. Trump’s official duties will not be impeded while awaiting the First Department’s decision," she added.


You go girl !
No one is above the law.
 
He made it clear the first time around that the Constitution was preventing him from doing a lot of things that he wanted to do. But this time around with the Supreme Court bought and paid for (and their ruling that gives him immunity for anything as long as it's "official business") he's going to attempt to follow up on that.
 

RSVP? Democrats are split on snubbing or showing up for Donald Trump's inauguration​

Phillip M. Bailey, Sudiksha Kochi and Savannah Kuchar, USA TODAY / Thu, December 12, 2024 at 6:34 PM GMT-5
"I'm not quite sure what I would be celebrating with his inauguration," Rep. Jamie Raskin, a Maryland Democrat who spearheaded some of the aggressive oversight during Trump's first term, told USA TODAY.

Celebrate can mean to observe Rep. Raskin.
Partisan rivalry may prevent you from enjoying the formality. Would you consider it better if the only witnesses are Trump henchmen? Leave asylum administration to the inmates?

If it was a partisan defeat in an insignificant congressional district you might perceive the luxury of turning your back to it.
Trump won.
It was a national election.
Turning your back on Trump at inauguration is at least symbolic of turning your back on your nation and People for four years. Is that the message you wish to send?

Synonyms: observe, keep, celebrate, commemorate, solemnize
These verbs mean to give proper heed to or show proper reverence for something, such as a custom or holiday. Observe and keep stress compliance or respectful adherence to that which is prescribed: observes the Sabbath; keeps the holiday traditions. Celebrate emphasizes observance in the form of rejoicing or festivity: a surprise party to celebrate her birthday. To commemorate is to honor the memory of a past event: a ceremony that commemorated the career of a physician. Solemnize implies dignity and gravity in the celebration of an occasion: solemnized the funeral with a 21-gun salute.
 
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