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"Lame Duck"? #2,819
Let's not overlook the current condition of potentially monumental consequence.
Elected public officials seeking re-election are obliged to maintain viable candidacy.

Trump, a lame duck, has no such constraint.

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"I side with Iran since we have no authority over what they wish to enrich." R5 #2,824
As a libertarian I'm both philosophically and emotionally committed to respecting autonomy, both of persons and Peoples.
It seems to me a concept worthy of merit not just for decades or centuries but millennia,
until now.

The principle hasn't changed.
What has changed is WMD.

Seemingly rational experts on this precise detail seem to support the consensus that a nuclear armed Iran would be a catastrophe for humanity.

If Iran wishes to worship Allah instead of Santa Claus, that's their problem. BUT !
We can't unring the bell.
It seems the best, if not the only way to avoid such Iranian global blackmail is to prevent Iran from obtaining the means.

The mainstream criticism I've encountered regarding Trump's Iran War quagmire is not the intent, but the hideously botched execution.

"Citizen Disposal Facility" S2 #2,825
Is there a Canadian partisan puzzle piece missing here?
 
As a libertarian I'm both philosophically and emotionally committed to respecting autonomy, both of persons and Peoples.
It seems to me a concept worthy of merit not just for decades or centuries but millennia,
until now.

The principle hasn't changed.
What has changed is WMD.

Seemingly rational experts on this precise detail seem to support the consensus that a nuclear armed Iran would be a catastrophe for humanity.

If Iran wishes to worship Allah instead of Santa Claus, that's their problem. BUT !
We can't unring the bell.
It seems the best, if not the only way to avoid such Iranian global blackmail is to prevent Iran from obtaining the means.

The mainstream criticism I've encountered regarding Trump's Iran War quagmire is not the intent, but the hideously botched execution.


Is there a Canadian partisan puzzle piece missing here?

I understand the extreme nature of nuclear weapons, but I think trying to scale it up is just an illusion.
The reality is that once firearms were invented, murder has already been trivially easy.
And the only thing that prevents murder has always been the threat of retaliation and retribution.
So the scale of murder being increased with nukes changes nothing.
Iran is still not going to push the button, knowing it would be suicidal.

Nor is there a way to "prevent Iran from obtaining the means".
There is no way to tell if Iran is enriching or not.

Nor does the US compare well with Iran as far as ethics.
Iran has only supported local liberation organizations that deserve support, like Hamas.
While in contrast, the US has illegally attacked oil producing countries like Iraq, Venezuela, Iran, etc., based solely on greed.
 
"I understand the extreme nature of nuclear weapons, but I think trying to scale it up is just an illusion." R5 #2,827
Two kinds of inventions:
- those that enable us to do what we've done before, but better / faster / etc.
- those that enable us to do what we were not able to do before.

Murder was possible, even in the suburb of the Garden of Eden, Cain slew Able. But !
Killing an entire city, the human population of a modern city like Hiroshima, not easy without tools equal to the task.
For that reason I consider nukes in that second category.

Nuclear blackmail is not merely a hypothetical never experienced on Earth.
Putin already threatened it regarding Ukraine.
That's why Western response to the Russian invasion has been so tepid.
We endeavored, and years into it (so far) succeeded in avoiding Russia escalating to nuclear weapons. BUT !
The more nuclear-weapon nations, the greater the risk.

Whether it's cultural bias or not, the Middle East seems to concentrate homicidal / genocidal ambitions.
Discouraging Iran from arming up seems a good idea. It appears Obama did a superb job of it.
Trump has not only opened Pandora's Box, he's ripped the lid off the hinges.

Another serious problem:
"MAD" mutual assured destruction only works if BOTH sides wish to survive.
We have already suffered doomsday cultists willing to mass-murder & die for boink-wit reason.
Jim Jones even engrained into our language "drank the kool-aid".
In that case iirc, hundreds, a serious mess. BUT !
Substitute a nuke for a pitcher of kool-aid and the problem scales up by orders of magnitude.

"The reality is that once firearms were invented, murder has already been trivially easy.
And the only thing that prevents murder has always been the threat of retaliation and retribution.
So the scale of murder being increased with nukes changes nothing." R5
That may seem so, in the abstract.
It would depend upon whether the intended homicide was against a specific individual or group,
or whether simply racking up the maximum tally was the objective.

"Iran is still not going to push the button, knowing it would be suicidal." R5
Unless Iran's own demise is included in the intended objective, or considered immaterial.

"Nor is there a way to "prevent Iran from obtaining the means".
There is no way to tell if Iran is enriching or not." R5
Obama's JCPOA did.
Britain, France, Germany, China, Russia, & U.S. disagree with you.
One might imagine Obama was simply swindled, a naïve dupe.
That doesn't explain Britain, France, Germany, China, Russia.
 
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