The bible is odd because no one even knows who wrote it?
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The bible is odd because no one even knows who wrote it?
It may be a minor factor, but we may be victim of English.
Either testament, or both combined might informally be called a "book", because any of the three can be presented in a single bound volume, also sometimes called a "book". BUT !
More precisely the Holy Bible is a combination of books, listed here:
Old Testament
| New Testament
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BUT !
Each of these many Biblical books has at least one author, though some believe origins may trace back to myths from preliterate cultures.Thus even if some survived unwritten for unknown generations, faithful adherence to storyline may not necessarily also mean accurate adherence to original wording, Fugelsang's point as follows:
It may be a minor factor, but we may be victim of English.
Either testament, or both combined might informally be called a "book", because any of the three can be presented in a single bound volume, also sometimes called a "book". BUT !
More precisely the Holy Bible is a combination of books, listed here:
Old Testament
- Genesis
- Exodus
- Leviticus
- Numbers
- Deuteronomy
- Joshua
- Judges
- Ruth
- 1 Samuel
- 2 Samuel
- 1 Kings
- 2 Kings
- 1 Chronicles
- 2 Chronicles
- Ezra
- Nehemiah
- Esther
- Job
- Psalms
- Proverbs
- Ecclesiastes
- Song of Solomon
- Isaiah
- Jeremiah
- Lamentations
- Ezekiel
- Daniel
- Hosea
- Joel
- Amos
- Obadiah
- Jonah
- Micah
- Nahum
- Habakkuk
- Zephaniah
- Haggai
- Zechariah
- Malachi
New Testament
- Matthew
- Mark
- Luke
- John
- Acts
- Romans
- 1 Corinthians
- 2 Corinthians
- Galatians
- Ephesians
- Philippians
- Colossians
- 1 Thessalonians
- 2 Thessalonians
- 1 Timothy
- 2 Timothy
- Titus
- Philemon
- Hebrews
- James
- 1 Peter
- 2 Peter
- 1 John
- 2 John
- 3 John
- Jude
- Revelation
OFFICIAL KING JAMES BIBLE ONLINE
King James Bible Online: Authorized King James Version (KJV) of the Bible- the preserved and living Word of God. Includes 1611 KJV and 1769 Cambridge KJV.
BUT !
Each of these many Biblical books has at least one author, though some believe origins may trace back to myths from preliterate cultures.
Thus even if some survived unwritten for unknown generations, faithful adherence to storyline may not necessarily also mean accurate adherence to original wording, Fugelsang's point as follows:
Exactly.
The sources are highly suspect due to the constant modifications and unknown origins.
What brought this up is that I was arguing with an Israeli about whether or not Israel should exist, and his point was that since Israel tolerates gays, it was better than the Islamic Palestinians.
Which I had difficulty answering, since if Israel is accepting gays, then it would seem to be a contradiction with the Old Testament and Talmud?
Israel isn't pure.
Israel may go easy on gays, but remains unforgiving about foreskins.
Saudi Arabia is about oil.
Israel is about mohel.
A little bit less unseriously:
characterizing the egalitarianism of a nation, a culture by anecdote is folly.
You knew that.
Israel may go easy on gays, but remains unforgiving about foreskins.
Saudi Arabia is about oil.
Israel is about mohel.
A little bit less unseriously:
characterizing the egalitarianism of a nation, a culture by anecdote is folly.
You knew that.
Since Israeli settlers are killing Palestinians, and Israel just passed a law allowing death penalty for Palestinians but not for Israelis, I think Israel is not really egalitarian at all?
But I think what is right for any country has to be up to the natives.
And I don't think that there is such a thing as an Israeli native?
Generally I'm not enthusiastic about double-standards.
That doesn't mean they don't exist.
It's possible to be egalitarian domestically, internally,
and to also not be internationally.
The result of that would be the situation Israel finds itself with today.
Jefferson outlined that reasoning in the 2nd paragraph of his Declaration of Independence.
Interesting point.
In the U.S. it's birthplace.
If that same standard were applied in Israel, wouldn't there be Arab / Palestinian "natives"?
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I would not mind Israelis having a double standard for citizens compared to foreigners if Israel had always existed as an isolated community.
But the problem is that Israelis actually are 6 million mostly Asiatic Turks who illegally invaded the 13 million Palestinian native Arabs.
Which means their nationalism, religious beliefs, cultural pride, etc., then actually is unethical instead of being positive.
They not only illegal invaded, but are a minority who never paid for the land they took.
Those are moral and legal violations that make Israel disgusting to me, even though I am Jewish.
The Israelis propaganda is very common to be claiming that Palestine is fake and those 13 million are actually Egyptian, Lebanese, or Jordanians.
Which makes no sense at all considering we have census data going back hundreds of years, as well as genetic DNA testing.
It is Netanyahu who had no Mideast ancestry.
It is strange being Jewish, since I have never seen any country I hate more than Israel.
It is hard to imagine any people being capable of as much evil as Israelis are so often.
It might not help here, but at least it's an outside the box perspective:
two contentious brothers are to inherit their parent's estate.
But their fraternal contentions are deep-seated an unresolvable.
So their real estate bequest was formulated as follows.
- Elder brother would flip a coin. Younger brother chooses head or tail.
The winner of the coin toss gets to divide the estate not necessarily precisely in half, BUT !
the other brother then has first choice of which portion he will keep for himself, and which his brother shall inherit.
That could be applicable in some circumstances, but Israel blew up the British peacekeepers in the King David Hotel in 1946 so that no one could stop them from massacring hundreds of native villages like Deir Yassin.
The 6 million immigrant Israelis now have stolen over 90% of Palestine, and imposed a starvation blockade on the 13 million Palestinians.