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Not sure it's counterintuitive:
we may not be able to predict which individuals within a large population will succumb. BUT !!

Applying well known epidemiological analysis of populations we can fairly accurately calculate such things.

Not sure what to make of the notion that we can calculate such stats accurately, but be wildly wrong about the contagion and or its medications.

Ockham's Razor
 
What is obvious is that they DID NOT fail.

What do you mean?
The mRNA shots did not prevent any infection, and in fact those who took the mRNA shots got covid multiple times on average.
Which means the mRNA not only provided zero immunity, but somehow removed the natural recovery immunity people who did not take the shot had.
Covid did not stop until way over the 72% infection rate that was predicted to stop it through herd immunity.
So then clearly the mRNA did not at all reduce the epidemic duration.
 
You keep making those claims with no backup.

No vaccine is 100% effective but fewer vaccinated people contracted COVID than unvaccinated. As for those vaccinated individuals who did become ill it was generally less severe than for those who weren't vaccinated.

But back to my question in #198 (and don't duck the question) - which of the articles you've linked concludes that mRNA vaccines don't work?
 
You keep making those claims with no backup.

No vaccine is 100% effective but fewer vaccinated people contracted COVID than unvaccinated. As for those vaccinated individuals who did become ill it was generally less severe than for those who weren't vaccinated.

But back to my question in #198 (and don't duck the question) - which of the articles you've linked concludes that mRNA vaccines don't work?

Not true.
The infection rate remained identical, regardless of mRNA injection, after 2 months.
The only advantage of the mRNA injection is that since it caused our own cells to mutate, start growing spike proteins, and needing to be destroyed by our own immune system, that temporarily for 2 months the mRNA injection did stimulate the production of cytokines by the immune system.

The fact the mRNA injections stimulated the immune system for 2 months, is not a plus since that is countered by the additional side effects from the mRNA, such as heart attacks, embolisms, blood clots, etc.
 
You keep making those claims with no backup.

No vaccine is 100% effective but fewer vaccinated people contracted COVID than unvaccinated. As for those vaccinated individuals who did become ill it was generally less severe than for those who weren't vaccinated.

But back to my question in #198 (and don't duck the question) - which of the articles you've linked concludes that mRNA vaccines don't work?

All articles admit that covid infection rates remained high after mRNA vaccinations.
In fact, I only got covid 3 times AFTER vaccination.
 
Not sure it's counterintuitive:
we may not be able to predict which individuals within a large population will succumb. BUT !!

Applying well known epidemiological analysis of populations we can fairly accurately calculate such things.

Not sure what to make of the notion that we can calculate such stats accurately, but be wildly wrong about the contagion and or its medications.

Ockham's Razor

There is a fairly obvious reason why evaluations are weak.
Since the mRNA shot caused some of our own cells to mutate, start growing spike proteins, and needing to be destroyed by our own immune system, the mRNA shot did for 2 months stimulate our immune system into high activity.

But the fact the mRNA conveyed no immunity is obvious since people who got the mRNA shot had increased infection rates.
For example, after the mRNA shots, I got covid 3 times.
That should not be possible if the shots caused any immunity at all.
 
You keep making nosensical claims about mRNA without providing any support - if anything you said is true you'll have no difficulty providing numerous peer reviewed studies that reach the same conclusions.

And if you don't we'll have to take that as an admission that you're just pulling things out of your nether regions.
 
You keep making nosensical claims about mRNA without providing any support - if anything you said is true you'll have no difficulty providing numerous peer reviewed studies that reach the same conclusions.

And if you don't we'll have to take that as an admission that you're just pulling things out of your nether regions.

First of all, the $60 billion both Moderna and Pfizer made is a reason to be suspicious of what is published by the media.
Second is that no other country has ever tried mRNA, and it is not approved by the FDA except in the emergency use for covid.
Third is that harmful and deadly side effects of mRNA are well published.
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A total of 81 articles analyzed confirmed cardiovascular complications post‐COVID‐19 mRNA vaccines in 17,636 individuals and reported 284 deaths with any mRNA vaccine. Of 17,636 cardiovascular events with any mRNA vaccine, 17,192 were observed with the BNT162b2 (Pfizer−BioNTech) vaccine, 444 events with mRNA‐1273 (Moderna). Thrombosis was frequently reported with any mRNA vaccine (n = 13,936), followed by stroke (n = 758), myocarditis (n = 511), myocardial infarction (n = 377), pulmonary embolism (n = 301), and arrhythmia (n = 254). Stratifying the results by vaccine type showed that thrombosis (80.8%) was common in the BNT162b2 cohort, while stroke (39.9%) was common with mRNA‐1273 for any dose. The time between the vaccination dosage and the first symptom onset averaged 5.6 and 4.8 days with the mRNA‐1273 vaccine and BNT162b2, respectively. The mRNA‐1273 cohort reported 56 deaths compared to the 228 with BNT162b2, while the rest were discharged or transferred to the ICU.
...}

Quite simply, why would anyone cause our own cells to start growing spike proteins, when it would be much safer to grow cells with spike proteins in lab vats?
Its obviously the most insane thing I have ever heard of.
 
According to that article there were 17,636 adverse events following vaccinations. And 255.838,817 Americans have been vaccinated. That means that approximately 0.007% of vaccinated individuals had an adverse reaction. That small a percentage being adversely affected is pretty impressive.

Never the less, you still haven't answered my question - since you're so adamant the vaccine didn't work provide us with all those peer reviewed articles in legitimate journals that says it didn't work.
 
According to that article there were 17,636 adverse events following vaccinations. And 255.838,817 Americans have been vaccinated. That means that approximately 0.007% of vaccinated individuals had an adverse reaction. That small a percentage being adversely affected is pretty impressive.

Never the less, you still haven't answered my question - since you're so adamant the vaccine didn't work provide us with all those peer reviewed articles in legitimate journals that says it didn't work.

The point is the mRNA ONLY causes additional deaths, embolisms, and amputations.
It can not and does not cause any good to counter balance the harm it causes.
And we already went over the $60 billion each that Moderna and Pfizer got, and how that explains why articles telling the truth about mRNA are suppressed.
 
"The point is the mRNA ONLY causes additional deaths, embolisms, and amputations." R5 #211

Messenger RNA (mRNA) is a type of single-stranded RNA involved in protein synthesis. mRNA is made from a DNA template during the process of transcription. The role of mRNA is to carry protein information from the DNA in a cell’s nucleus to the cell’s cytoplasm (watery interior), where the protein-making machinery reads the mRNA sequence and translates each three-base codon into its corresponding amino acid in a growing protein chain. https://www.genome.gov/genetics-glossary/Messenger-RNA-mRNA

R5,
Your perspective is so far off the path of current scientific consensus you cast the shadow of Don Quixote tilting at windmills, a global conspiracy of governments, industries, and populations including academe, & U.S. congressional bi-partisan cooperation, up until Trump's second inauguration.
mRFK, the world's most famous walking talking worm cemetery has the magaGOP stumbling to a different tune.
I can't name a "scientist" apart from Dr Mehmet Oz, an RFKj toady, that embraces the RFKj vax attacks. The Southern U.S. measles outbreak is an obvious example. Quibble about whether motivated by malice or ignorance, the detriment is the same. The Biden administration had measles under control. Trump took care of that. Great! Right? Isn't that what Trump promised U.S., again?

"The point is the mRNA ONLY causes additional deaths, embolisms, and amputations." R5 #211
Are there any diploid human cells that don't have mRNA? You got any mRNA left? If so, and you haven't died of embolism or amputation, ... ?
 
Are there any diploid human cells that don't have mRNA? You got any mRNA left? If so, and you haven't died of embolism or amputation, ... ?
Don't insult Don Quixote.

That said, Rigby hasn't provided any peer reviewed studies from legitimate journals that support ANY of his claims.
 
Messenger RNA (mRNA) is a type of single-stranded RNA involved in protein synthesis. mRNA is made from a DNA template during the process of transcription. The role of mRNA is to carry protein information from the DNA in a cell’s nucleus to the cell’s cytoplasm (watery interior), where the protein-making machinery reads the mRNA sequence and translates each three-base codon into its corresponding amino acid in a growing protein chain. https://www.genome.gov/genetics-glossary/Messenger-RNA-mRNA

R5,
Your perspective is so far off the path of current scientific consensus you cast the shadow of Don Quixote tilting at windmills, a global conspiracy of governments, industries, and populations including academe, & U.S. congressional bi-partisan cooperation, up until Trump's second inauguration.
mRFK, the world's most famous walking talking worm cemetery has the magaGOP stumbling to a different tune.
I can't name a "scientist" apart from Dr Mehmet Oz, an RFKj toady, that embraces the RFKj vax attacks. The Southern U.S. measles outbreak is an obvious example. Quibble about whether motivated by malice or ignorance, the detriment is the same. The Biden administration had measles under control. Trump took care of that. Great! Right? Isn't that what Trump promised U.S., again?


Are there any diploid human cells that don't have mRNA? You got any mRNA left? If so, and you haven't died of embolism or amputation, ... ?

I can tell you are missing the point with mRNA.

First of all, RNA is just a common transitory part of the process of reading or "transcribing" DNA.
So all cells often create RNA as part of their normal processes.
But mRNA is rare and not common at all.
{...
RNA (ribonucleic acid) is a broad category of nucleic acids, while mRNA (messenger RNA) is a specific type of RNA that carries genetic information from DNA to ribosomes for protein synthesis.
...}
So mRNA is only naturally created when the cell has a protein deficiency it needs to correct.

The mRNA of the covid vaccine is not a normal mRNA that any human cell ever produces.
It is a specific artificial mRNA that forces the ribosomes in our own cells to start artificially growing spike proteins.
And our natural mRNA never causes our cells to grow spike proteins on the outside of the cell wall like the covid vax mRNA does.

So why is it bad for our own cells to start growing spike proteins?
Since our cells normally do not grow spike proteins, the immune system detects these cells as damaged, and destroys them.
That normally only causes muscle pain in the area of injection.
But if the mRNA gets into the blood stream, and it does in over 1% of those injected, then the cells killed by the immune system can be in the heart, brain, capillaries, etc., causing those potentially tragic deaths and amputations.

The obvious way around these risks is to not reprogram the ribosomes in our own human cells by injecting mRNA into us, but to instead make cells that grow spike proteins in lab vats.
That not only would avoid all this risk from out own cells having to be destroyed in the process. but also would ensure the right amount of spike proteins. Currently by growing the spike proteins inside of humans, sometime you get far too many spike proteins and sometimes you get none.

But now lets talk about how the immune system works with vaccines.
The idea of vaccines is that by introducing dead pathogens to the body, the immune system will remember them by appending some sort of information onto T-cell DNA in the bone marrow.
We do not know how the immune system does that, or what the immune system is remembering.
Whatever characteristic the immune system remembers is called the "epitope".

The reason the inventor of mRNA, Dr. Frank Malone, says you can't use mRNA as a covid vaccine is because the immune system can't be made to trigger on spike proteins.
That is because our own exosomes have to use the same spike protein in order to get into our own cells, by asking ACE2 receptors on our cells to let them in.
Exosomes are necessary, since that is how the body sends messages to our cells, like to order them to grow for healing, and things like that.
The corona viruses are just mimicking our own exosomes singular spike protein with a lot of spike proteins.
And in fact, many believe corona viruses are just some of our own exosomes who mutated and got out of control.
So you can't target spike proteins.
If you could, then our own exosomes would become targeted and we would die.

So then why does the mRNA injection seem to help for 2 months?
That is because causing our own cells to grow spike proteins does stimulate the immune system.
Since the cells forced to grow spike proteins are detected as bad and needing to be destroyed, the immune system kicks into overtime, producing cytokines to digest all those effected cells.
All those cytokines will also reduce any other pathogen they accidentally find, so for 2 months or so, you will be safer from infection of any sort, slightly.
But it is useless since your body can't keep that up, and it only lasts until the last of the spike protein cells are gone.
It puts NOTHING into T-cell memory in the bone marrow.
There is not any immunity at all created by mRNA injections.
This is well documented by Dr. Frank Malone, the patent holder on mRNA technology.
 
"... all cells often create RNA as part of their normal processes.
But mRNA is rare and not common at all." R5 #214
I'm not sure how a typical human cell can function without it.

"Rigby hasn't provided any peer reviewed studies from legitimate journals that support ANY of his claims." S2 #213
Inaccuracy means being wrong a significant amount of the time.
Accuracy means being wrong less than that.

Those compulsively thinking "inside the box" may be perceived to be wrong less often. Even when wrong, often under cover of consensus.
R5 may be plain old outright wrong about mRNA.

BUT !

The inclination to skepticism is useful in life, & valued at a current events BBS. It's a "sanity check".

Either way it makes a BBS substantially less dull.
"One of the pleasures of pessimism is that you're right more often than not,
and when you're not you're pleased." George Will
By George !
 
Don't insult Don Quixote.

That said, Rigby hasn't provided any peer reviewed studies from legitimate journals that support ANY of his claims.

The fact people are afraid of being sued by Moderna and Pfizer who each made over $60 billion off the mRNA fraud, does not mean mRNA at all works.
Dr. Frank Malone holds the mRNA patents, and he is very clear on why it can't work, even though Moderna and Pfizer have published horrific lies about him.
 
I'm not sure how a typical human cell can function without it.


Inaccuracy means being wrong a significant amount of the time.
Accuracy means being wrong less than that.

Those compulsively thinking "inside the box" may be perceived to be wrong less often. Even when wrong, often under cover of consensus.
R5 may be plain old outright wrong about mRNA.

BUT !

The inclination to skepticism is useful in life, & valued at a current events BBS. It's a "sanity check".

Either way it makes a BBS substantially less dull.

By George !

If a cell does not have any particular protein deficiency, then it does not normally produce any mRNA.
And even when it does have a protein deficiency and does produce mRNA, it never creates the particular mRNA that the covid vax shots contain.
That is because the mRNA from the covid shot forces the cell to start growing spike proteins on its outer wall, which is suicidal.
Any cell that does that is quickly detected as defective and destroyed.
That is a very bad thing.
We do not want random cells in our body to be attacked and destroyed due to being infected with spike growing mRNA instructions.
 
Here is FactCheck on Dr. Frank Malone and the way Moderna and Pfizer have attacked him.
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The New York Times claims that Robert Malone, the outspoken critic of the mRNA vaccines, is a ‘Covid misinformation star’ and did not invent the mRNA technology that is used in the mRNA vaccines.

This is not true. Malone has the credentials to speak about these topics, his name is on the first studies that report successful in vitro transcription (IVT) of mRNA, and reputable sources speak of him as the discoverer of this technology.
...}
 
Without any detailed research it should be obvious the mRNA did not at all work since it did not provide any immunity after 2 months, and covid continued to spread by those who had taken the mRNA injection.
 
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