"They realized that no-one is going to come" S2 #281
Kenyan court temporarily blocks U.S. plan for Ebola quarantine facility
The U.S. had set up the facility in Kenya to take in Americans exposed to Ebola, with a plan to send patients who develop symptoms to European countries for care.
There's a Ebola outbreak, hundreds reportedly already killed.
Some in the U.S. don't want U.S. citizens potentially infected to be repatriated, despite U.S. facilities capable of handling this.
Some Kenyans object to a treatment center in Kenya, exclusively for U.S. citizens.
Who's right?
Thanks R5."I get MedPageToday publications for medical professionals, and they say the attempt to set up new Ebola facilities in Africa are insane." R5 #286
Thanks R5.
I wouldn't accept it being "insane" by every criterion. You haven't asserted it is.
But I gather we can handle it Stateside, so as a generalization, it's probably useful guidance.
I'm a little puzzled about these Ebola flareups.
Sometimes (most of the time) we don't seem to have that.
Then, we do.
But only when a monkey-eater burps?
It's worse than that:It is easy to prove Noah's Ark could not have existed, since any gene pool less then around 200 members, is not survivable due to inbred mutations.
The Impossible Voyage of Noah's Ark
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The Impossible Voyage of Noah's Ark | National Center for Science Education
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United States Constitution
ARTICLE #8: Ratified December 15, 1791
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
Jeffery Lee breathes ‘sigh of relief’ after Alabama’s nitrogen execution is deemed unconstitutional
Moments after a federal judge permanently blocked his execution by nitrogen gas, Lee told NBC News he was prepared to keep fighting. His fate remains uncertain.
June 10, 2026, 3:41 PM GMT-5 / Updated June 10, 2026, 5:32 PM GMT-5 / By Abigail Brooks and Erik Ortiz
A death row prisoner whose planned execution Thursday was suddenly halted became emotional when he learned that a federal court had ruled Alabama’s use of nitrogen gas violates the constitutional ban on cruel and unusual punishment.
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Jeffery Lee breathes ‘sigh of relief’ after Alabama’s nitrogen execution is deemed unconstitutional
Moments after a federal judge permanently blocked his execution by nitrogen gas, Lee told NBC News he was prepared to keep fighting. His fate remains uncertain.www.nbcnews.com
Some may think the "electric chair" is a tidy, humane means of terminating the life of a convicted felon.
It isn't.
BUT !
In the context of State executions in the U.S., though "cruel" it may well be, "unusual"?
So cruel is OK, unusual is OK, but not both?
Nitrogen is a colorless, odorless gas. So is Carbon monoxide.
Many Americans have died inhaling Carbon monoxide via hypoxia, depletion of Oxygen.
Typically these hypoxia victims are unaware of the danger they are succumbing to. Not so for the victims strapped into an electric chair for execution.
Is hypoxia "unusual"? Perhaps.
Is Nitrogen hypoxia "cruel"?
If you were to be executed, but given a choice between electric chair, or Nitrogen hypoxia, which would you choose?
If you were to be executed, but were given a choice between lethal injection or Nitrogen hypoxia, which would you choose?
Would simply slipping a plastic bag over the head of the condemned be better?
Yes BUT !"Executions teach murder by example." R5 #295
Yes BUT !
State executions set a standard of homicide most persons won't mirror.
However many among us will raise children.
And many well raised children are taught not to hit their schoolmates.
Ironically, hypocritically, some parents punish violations of this standard by spanking the perpetrating child.
These are insights into hypocrisy.
Those pure of heart might oppose State executions. Some Western European nations have suspended such practice.
Does it make more sense to warehouse, waste food on a sociopath that cannot / will not be rehabilitated? A Clockwork Orange ?
There are too many exceptions for that to be regarded a viable rule."But the lesson a republic needs to constantly prove is that government is not a dictatorship, so therefore can not do anything that ordinary people can not do." R5 #297
"But the lesson a republic needs to constantly prove is that government is not a dictatorship, so therefore can not do anything that ordinary people can not do." R5 #297
There are too many exceptions for that to be regarded a viable rule.
Individual citizens cannot:
- tax
- police motor-vehicle traffic
- mount national defense
- many other examples
"A government exists when it has a reasonable monopoly on the legitimate use of violence." George Will