It is easy to run a generator from far away, or add an extension to the exhaust pipe.
I worry more about other gas devices like lawnmowers, leaf blowers, warming up the car, etc.
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It is easy to run a generator from far away, or add an extension to the exhaust pipe.
I worry more about other gas devices like lawnmowers, leaf blowers, warming up the car, etc.
A principle we ought not ignore:
Problem is, when Adams formulated that thought, it took weeks to transit the Atlantic ocean, as fast as the wind could propel us.
In the new millennium a troglodyte in Afghanistan can topple our skyscrapers from a hemisphere away.
The U.S. in Afghanistan, reportedly the U.S.' longest War (not counting Drug War) was folly.
You're a better student of such history than I am R5,
seems to me the U.S. took the wrong fork in the road when we engineered the overthrow of Iran's duly elected Mossadegh.
The U.S. has meddled quite a bit since then, and it seems many a new crisis for U.S. foreign policy results from prior ostensible U.S. foreign policy successes.
Shiftless2
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Not just generators - people die from using charcoal grills to heat their homes as well
Indeed.
I've chosen the UPS route. I've got a multi-fuel auxiliary generator, runs on propane / LP.
But my UPS are simple & reliable.
APC makes versions for home use.
But I have a bank of eight deep-cycle AGM batteries, each weighing about 70 lbs.
Simple:
This battery bank feeds a sine wave inverter which runs the A/C equipment I run.
The rest, like lighting I run direct from the UPS, in the form of 12V DC LED.
The charger runs off the grid.
When there's a commercial power failure, the charger shuts down. BUT
I don't have to wait for the relay to kick in, etc.
Not even a flicker.
Due to recent storms, we had two commercial power failures here that lasted over 48 hrs.
The UPS handled it without a flinch.
Chlorine for the gene pool?
The generators I had were cheap, so could not do the whole house.
I then had to wire just the refrigerator and furnace on a separate circuit I could manually throw a switch on, after I started the generator with the pull rope.
Not ideal, but outages were not common.
I have seen Generac generators fairly cheap, like $1200.
Generac seems popular around here.
I was visiting in the lower Hudson Valley. From indoors, I heard an engine start. My thought: - Who's running the lawnmower? -
It seems my host's Generac was programmed to automatically start once a week, just to keep it in operating condition.
note:
Generac now offers whole house UPS. I think they're Li-ion.
I was visiting in the lower Hudson Valley. From indoors, I heard an engine start. My thought: - Who's running the lawnmower? -
It seems my host's Generac was programmed to automatically start once a week, just to keep it in operating condition.
note:
Generac now offers whole house UPS. I think they're Li-ion.
Shiftless2
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I do know a couple of people with whole house home generator systems.
And one of the large grocery stores near where I used to work has a massive generator - obviously they can't afford to lose thousands of dollars worth of frozen and refrigerated goods if the power goes out. And it does run for about half an hour every Sunday morning.
And one of the large grocery stores near where I used to work has a massive generator - obviously they can't afford to lose thousands of dollars worth of frozen and refrigerated goods if the power goes out. And it does run for about half an hour every Sunday morning.
Grand Union ?
I haven't figured supermarket refrigeration out. The open bin style is easy enough. Cold air is denser, sinks, puddles down there. But
above the open bins are shelves with ostensibly refrigerated food. Not sure how it stays below 40F up there.
Don't know if it's changed much, but around Y2K I read supermarket profit margins are quite thin.
A generator powerful enough to run all that refrigeration would have to be a big deal.
- Expensive to buy.
- Expensive to maintain. BUT
- Even more expensive to neglect.
glad I'm retired
Shiftless2
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Pretax supermarket profit margins are in the order of 3-5% of gross sales.