Trump has already intruded on legislative branch authority.
Whatever the explanation, the appearance is Trump has cowed both legislative & judicial branches of government. So much for "checks & balances".
The Second Term of Donald J. Trump as President of the United States of America
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Whatever the explanation, the appearance is Trump has cowed both legislative & judicial branches of government. So much for "checks & balances".
Shiftless2
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"Fruit of the poison tree"?
Isn't "evidence" (if comments made by minor children qualifies) obtained illegally inadmissible?
When are the laws Trump violates going to be enforced?
- meanwhile -
Last night on broadcast TV:
"The physical is tomorrow, which means we should have the results tonight." Jimmy Kimmel 25/04/10
I think Trump could kick Biden's @$$, and perhaps several other of Biden's farm animals too. - but -
I think Putin could whup them both. They'd each have separate terrible accidents, falling out of upper story Moscow high rise windows.
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Things have to go to court for that to matter - arresting kids and their parents and deporting them will avoid that nasty step.
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tsodroeSpnmac2c6fthf0t653ca6l1c1139609gt4th5005i700i3f227f11 ·BREAKING: House Majority Leader Hakeem Jeffries makes the announcement that Republicans were dreading — reveals that Democrats are launching investigations into potential financial wrongdoing tied to Donald Trump's tariffs.
This is the last thing that MAGA wanted to hear....
"We need to get to the bottom of the possible stock manipulation that is unfolding before the American people, including what, if any, advance knowledge did members of the House Republican Conference have of Trump’s decision to pause the reckless tariffs that he put into place?" Jeffries said to reporters.
"There are several members of Congress who will be aggressively demanding answers and transparency, particularly as it relates to stock purchase decisions that may have occurred over the last few days,” Jeffries continued.
Democratic senators Adam Schiff and Ruben Gallego have already demanded that the Office of Government Ethics investigate any possible insider trading tied to the tariffs.
Specifically, they requested any information on whether Trump, his family, or members of his administration "engaged in insider trading or other illegal financial transactions informed by advanced knowledge of non-public information regarding his changes to tariff policy."
Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has also called for members of Congress to reveal any financial transactions made in recent days.
It would have been a simple matter for Trump to inform his cronies before making the announcement of the 90-day tariff pause, allowing them to invest heavily before stock prices spiked.
"Members of the House of Representatives will have to disclose any stock trades that they’ve made 30 days from the date of those trades, or potentially no later than 45 days. And so the reality is, people are going to have to pay the piper in terms of disclosure," Jeffries continued.
"Our point is: You might as well get it out into the public domain now, because it’s coming later. And there’s nothing that you can do about it," he concluded.
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I did not know that.
I thought the gun-toaters collected the information, and then it was passed on to the judiciary for disposition.
If I'm wrong about that, the risk is an innocent man could be "deported" to an El Salvador prison, potentially without recourse other than traditional U.S. institutional compassion.
Insider-trading is illegal.
Is that where the Dems. wish to draw the line in the sand?
Musk & his chainsaw act is no problem, it's congressional profiteering they want to crush?
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Recent actions by ICE have proven that's not the case.
Was it during the Biden administration?
I moved into my ridge-top home in the forest in 2001, the world has passed me by. What's next ?! An all woman space crew?
Seems to me we're in Kafka territory here. BUT ! “In a democracy, the people get the government they deserve” French diplomat and historian Alexis de Tocqueville
Trump to end protected status for Afghans and Cameroonians
Thousands of Afghans and Cameroonians will have their temporary deportation protections terminated, the US Department of Homeland Security has said.Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem found the conditions in Afghanistan and Cameroon no longer merited US protections, according to a statement from DHS assistant secretary Tricia McLaughlin.
Trump to end protected status for Afghans and Cameroonians
Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem found the conditions in both countries no longer merited US protections, a statement says.
www.bbc.com
sickening
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I'm not aware of ICE simply grabbing people and imprisoning them or deporting them in violation of their legal status. And, did we hear about ICE simply turning up at schools demanding to "talk" to children?
The practice is different, but isn't the law the same? If anything has changed in law it's by Stare Decisis, not statute.
We need some good news about the Trump administration.
Here you go sears.
Trump floats plan for undocumented farm and hotel workers to work legally in the U.S.
Suzanne Gamboa / Thu, April 10, 2025 at 5:47 PM EDTPresident Donald Trump suggested at a Cabinet meeting Thursday that undocumented people working on farms and in hotels would be allowed to leave the country and return as legal workers if their employers vouched for them.
Trump floats plan for undocumented farm and hotel workers to work legally in the U.S.
Trump said in a Cabinet meeting that workers vouched for by employers would "go out" and "they’re going to come back as legal workers.”
Analogous to an otherwise fashionable wedding dress with a prominent denim repair patch on it. BUT !
Any port in a storm.
Worth noting, labor experts understand these "illegal" workers are not taking jobs from U.S. citizens. Instead they're performing labor that would otherwise not get done.
Thus until this "plan" Trump has been threatening to tank his own economy. This seems like an excellent idea, though caveat: "the Devil's in the details".
It would depend upon implementation.
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It's not the same - everyone is entitled to due process and their day in court before being deported or locked in a concentration camp. ICE's is bypassing that by simply rounding people up - no warrants, nothing.
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I do purchasing for a company that builds McMansions. We do higher end custom new construction for people with more money than sense...
Part of my job is monitoring and updating prices from our various suppliers and manufacturers, so that we can bid our jobs accurately. In normal years this means an inflation bump once a year, or in worse years twice a year.
This year I've already had to bump prices up 3 times due to the tariffs, and we've been told to expect another price increase at the end of this month.
The interesting thing is...The companies with the largest increases have been companies that advertise themselves as "Made in America"
As someone who buys things for a living, I know why, and as a consumer, and hopefully a voter, you should probably know this too. So let me explain...
Tariffs incentivize people to buy domestic products, by raising the price of imports. This in turn creates more demand for domestic products. With higher demand comes higher prices. Economics 101, right? But why would prices on domestic products be going up faster and higher than imported products?
Well... Here's the thing. Practically nothing you buy is entirely domestic. Some raw material, component, or processing comes from somewhere else.
So, your made in the USA products are seeing higher demand, but are also subjected to tariffs at some point in their supply chain.
And while we're here... Remember that prices tend to be "sticky" even if/when these tariffs are delayed or ended those prices will be very slow to come back down, if they ever do.
I do purchasing for a company that builds McMansions. We do higher end custom new construction for people with more money than sense...
Part of my job is monitoring and updating prices from our various suppliers and manufacturers, so that we can bid our jobs accurately. In normal years this means an inflation bump once a year, or in worse years twice a year.
This year I've already had to bump prices up 3 times due to the tariffs, and we've been told to expect another price increase at the end of this month.
The interesting thing is...The companies with the largest increases have been companies that advertise themselves as "Made in America"
As someone who buys things for a living, I know why, and as a consumer, and hopefully a voter, you should probably know this too. So let me explain...
Tariffs incentivize people to buy domestic products, by raising the price of imports. This in turn creates more demand for domestic products. With higher demand comes higher prices. Economics 101, right? But why would prices on domestic products be going up faster and higher than imported products?
Well... Here's the thing. Practically nothing you buy is entirely domestic. Some raw material, component, or processing comes from somewhere else.
So, your made in the USA products are seeing higher demand, but are also subjected to tariffs at some point in their supply chain.
And while we're here... Remember that prices tend to be "sticky" even if/when these tariffs are delayed or ended those prices will be very slow to come back down, if they ever do.
Thanks S2. That's what I thought, my intended point in #467.
Thank you Lisa.
Deliberately so, iirc.
Wasn't that the long term intention of globalization?
Before deliberate globalization group-A industrialized nations enjoyed Western style of living, and group-B "3rd world" nations survival was little more than subsistence. Natural resource rather than value add.
This entrenched two-tier system left group-A nations sending aid to group-B nations in $Billions of dollars.
The idea of globalization was that a 3rd world economy would be an appealing labor market for industry.
Industry provided the employment, the new labor market provided the labor, both prospered.
And when this new found prosperity brought that market closer to Western standards, industrial employers would move on to the next under-developed labor market
until the entire globe had been brought to prosperity.
Not sure it's worked out precisely that way.
TBD, how will Trump's ignorant economic shenanigans affect the global economy in 2026 and beyond.
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Well, She's Not Lying About This ... "White House Press Sec Says Trump’s Seriously Considering Deporting US Citizens. Trump has discussed options for deporting citizens both publicly and in private, Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said."
White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt confirmed on Tuesday, after President Donald Trump’s quip about wanting to “deport” incarcerated U.S. citizens to El Salvador’s notoriously cruel prison system, that the White House has actually been discussing such a policy.
Trump was asked by a reporter on Monday whether he endorsed the idea of sending U.S. citizens to El Salvador, as his administration has already sent hundreds of noncitizens there, mostly immigrants from Venezuela who were living in the U.S.
The White House has tried to justify its actions by claiming that those individuals were violent gang members — but an investigation by CBS News found that three-quarters of the people deported had no criminal records at all.
Trump responded positively to the idea of sending currently incarcerated U.S. citizens to El Salvador’s prisons as well.“I love that,” Trump said, adding that he’d be “honored to give them” to that country.
The president acknowledged that he wasn’t sure whether what he was advocating for was legal.
https://truthout.org/articles/white...seriously-considering-deporting-u-s-citizens/
On that latter point, SCOTUS has already given Trump blanket permission to break as many laws as he wants.
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At this point Trump (and the GOP) seem to feel that they are free to ignore the Constitution
