Shiftless2
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Since immigrants are less welcomed in the United States, should the Statue of Liberty be removed?
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Richard Butler
Former Police Sergeant at Dallas Police Department (1982–2011)5y
Sigh,this again. Legal immigrants within sustainable numbers are welcome. Illegal aliens are breaking the law and, by law, should be deported. No nation on Earth has unlimited or unchecked legal immigration. Nor does the USA, or any other nation, have an obligation or responsibility to allow anyone who wants to do so to immigrate here.
Just a few observations:
Someone applying for asylum has a legal right to do so. They are not illegal.
And just so you know, there are two distinct issues here. The first is “improper entry” which is a misdemeanor (on the same level as a traffic ticket - maximum penalty of six months of incarceration and up to $250 in civil penalties) and “unlawful presence” which isn’t even a crime.
Is Illegal Immigration a Crime? Improper Entry v. Unlawful Presence
And before you claim that “they” should join the line you should be aware that there is no line.
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ALL POSSIBLE RESPONSES TO “THEY SHOULD GET IN LINE AND DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, THE WAY MY FAMILY DID,” WITH CITATIONS (ALSO JOKES)
Matt Cameron
Hello, it’s your friendly neighborhood immigration attorney back again to provide you with everything you need the next time someone starts trying to tell you about how their family came “the right way” and anyone who wants to do it like their ancestors did should “get in line.” (TL;dr: there’s a really good chance that at least some portion of your family came to the U.S. without a visa, and the “right way” from 1790–1965 has nothing to do with how things are done now.)
1/”MY FAMILY DID IT THE RIGHT WAY”
(A) Did your family do it before 1776?
https://www.quora.com/profile/Richard-Butler-94
Richard Butler
Former Police Sergeant at Dallas Police Department (1982–2011)5y
Sigh,this again. Legal immigrants within sustainable numbers are welcome. Illegal aliens are breaking the law and, by law, should be deported. No nation on Earth has unlimited or unchecked legal immigration. Nor does the USA, or any other nation, have an obligation or responsibility to allow anyone who wants to do so to immigrate here.
Just a few observations:
Someone applying for asylum has a legal right to do so. They are not illegal.
And just so you know, there are two distinct issues here. The first is “improper entry” which is a misdemeanor (on the same level as a traffic ticket - maximum penalty of six months of incarceration and up to $250 in civil penalties) and “unlawful presence” which isn’t even a crime.
Is Illegal Immigration a Crime? Improper Entry v. Unlawful Presence
And before you claim that “they” should join the line you should be aware that there is no line.
——————————————————-
ALL POSSIBLE RESPONSES TO “THEY SHOULD GET IN LINE AND DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, THE WAY MY FAMILY DID,” WITH CITATIONS (ALSO JOKES)
Matt Cameron
Hello, it’s your friendly neighborhood immigration attorney back again to provide you with everything you need the next time someone starts trying to tell you about how their family came “the right way” and anyone who wants to do it like their ancestors did should “get in line.” (TL;dr: there’s a really good chance that at least some portion of your family came to the U.S. without a visa, and the “right way” from 1790–1965 has nothing to do with how things are done now.)
1/”MY FAMILY DID IT THE RIGHT WAY”
(A) Did your family do it before 1776?
- They didn’t “immigrate,” they colonized
- Same. And the United States didn’t even go to the trouble of defining who was or wasn’t a citizen until then.
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